Why would I want to ask my Firefox and Opera-using clients to  
download a plug-in to do something those browsers can already do  
natively?

Maybe if all you really care about is Windows, then yeah, knock  
yourself out.

A vote for proprietary technology in this case is a vote for more  
corporate power. Yeah, I think M$ needs some more of that. I'm sure  
they'll never abuse it. Let's all help M$ by adopting WPF/E over  
equivalent open standard and open source alternatives!

Guy




On 05/12/2006, at 4:47 PM, kggsystem wrote:

> Well, too bad you won't give it a spin.
>
> I forgot to mention that the WPF/E Beta has runtimes for Internet
> Explorer and Firefox on the PC, and for the MAC. Linux runtimes will
> follow within a year. Makes me wonder how much more effort the FF
> people will want to put into SVG now that they have this WPF/E stuff.
>
> I have been a SVG fan for a long time, but not because it was an Open
> Standard spec'd by comittee. I am a fan of SVG because of what it can
> do for me and my customers. I am a fan because of it's declarative
> nature, elegant schema, rich feature set, and scriptable DOM. So by
> extension I am a fan of this WPF/E stuff too. Same model. It has
> nothing to do with blinders or gullibility or that Bill Gates
> invented the Web, Cellular Telephone, and Transistor or whatever else
> he invented.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Nup, I'm not the least bit interested in that. Another proprietary
>> model for delivering "rich web apps"? no thanks.
>>
>> I can't believe *anyone*, except die-hard and blinkered M$ fans,
> can want this.
>>
>> Sounds like they ought to be able to support SVG using this stuff
>> though, and pretty easily I'd have thought. Clearly they understand
>> the problem space well enough. What's lacking, as always with M$,
>> is the will to give support to a technology they can't own.
>> It's my fervent hope that sooner or later this will bring about
>> their demise, however, breathless announcements about how "cool"
>> stuff like this is  indicates to me that M$ are as good as ever at
>> spinning a line for the gullible. They'll have everyone believing
>> they invented the web all over again.
>>
>> Let's hope this goes the way of "Microsoft Network", and they are
>> eventually forced to throw their lot in with the rest of humanity,
>> instead of reinventing everything as their own.
>>
>> Guy
>>
>> On 05/12/2006, at 6:56 AM, kggsystem wrote:
>>
>>> WPF/E is much more closer to SVG than the full fledged WPF, in
> that it
>>> runs "loose markup" with a scripting model, in a browser. The Full
>>> Fledged WPF really requires a compilation step before it is very
>>> useful.
>>>
>>> SVG Model
>>>
>>> 1) User in Browser points to an URL that might be HTML and/or SVG.
>>> 2) Files (HTML, SVG, JS, CSS) are returned, rendered, and the
> scripts
>>> are activated. Javascript can manipulate the SVG DOM to do stuff
>>> 3) User is in Business
>>>
>>> WPF/E Model
>>>
>>> 1) User in Browser points to an URL that might be HTML and/or
> XAML.
>>> 2) Files (HTML, XAML, JS) are returned, rendered, and the scripts
> are
>>> activated. Javascript can manipulate the WPF/E DOM to do stuff
>>> 3) User is in Business
>>>
>>> Check it out, you might find it interesting
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
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