--- In [email protected], "tony_ser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, you just show me examples to highlight the xbrowser SVG > incompatibility. > > http://www.geofoto.ch/geophotomap/ does not work on Opera 9.8031 > http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/ take forever to load (Sean > also mention that)
These two links run perfectly in Opera 9.10 Révision 8649 ! And with same rapidity as with IE7 + Adobe plugin ... Michel PS IE6 + Adobe plugin remain best for rapidity ... > 2 out of 3 don't work xbrowser. And the 3rd is a widgetlibrary not a > real application. > > The browsers are still rendering them differently or have problem > with it. Both the SVG content and browsers will get better but the > applications that you point out are not usable in firefor or Opera at > this moment. That is my point. > > > >why is Adobe so important to SVG? IE is the only browser with no > >native SVG support. > I think you answered your question. Adobe is important because IE is > the browser with no native SVG support. I am not cheering for IE on > lack of SVG support but the reality is IE still used by the majority > and if we need to develop an applcation right now, we need a capable > plugin. > > >They have to support it soon if they don't want > >to loose more market share. Native SVG support in browsers is much > >better than a plugin anyway. With a plugin you are in this box and > >the Eolas case showed us what can happen to plugins ... lots of > >annoying stuff ... > I am not arguing that plugin is better. I am just stating the fact > that we don't have it in IE at this point. Again, I am not cheering > for it. > > Doc wrote: > "I think your just sitting too close to the screen, and need to pull > back some to see the larger picture of why Adobe having acquired the > Flash player would want to shift the SVG effort into that product and > discontinue the ASV" > > I can see this being your wish (and our wishes as well), but please > don't treat it like a fact. It may still happen but there is no sign > of it happening. You may want to sit a bit closer to reality. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Andreas Neumann" > <neumann@> wrote: > > > > > Well, I already create SVG applications, and while > > > the various implementations are still short of being fully > > > compliant with the w3.org standards, the overlap of what is > already > > > implemented has me already making money developing > > > xbrowser SVG. > > > > I can say the same about my applications. Most of it runs fine > > accross Opera 9, Firefox >1.5 and ASV, with Safari/Webkit soon to > > join the club. > > > > Here are some more complex examples that work across browsers: > > > > http://www.geofoto.ch/geophotomap/ > > http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/ > > all of http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/gui/ > > > > Yes, there are some open issues, but none of them are too serious > and > > not resolvable. If you take the time and report bugs or complain > > about missing features, I am sure that Opera and Firefox will react > > in a timely manner. > > > > Andreas > > > ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

