Jeff's idea/proposal of "taking the Mozilla codebase and turning that into an ActiveX control for IE" seems to be taking shape. No doubt it is a challenge.
The challenge is to get a consequent number of senior programmers to commit to such a project. We all know that senior programmers are busy people and have already given their share but this task requires an efficiency level at least equal to that of Mr Ferraiolo and his acolytes while making ASV. The project would need to be terminated in a short time, the reasons for this delay being short having been already exposed in some posts on this and other threads. If necessary, let's found a committee for the rescuing of SVG. Let's ask for sponsoring. I hope it's clear for everyone that this is a last chance to gather. In the latest post from the News items syndicated from svg.org. on the SVG home page, at w3c.org, one can read: "and there is hope that by the time Adobe SVG Viewer is discontinued there will be mature alternatives for all the Internet Explorer users." Now, everyone knows that hope is good enough for artists, losers and other types of believers, but not for business people. We can sit here and hope, or we can try to do something. Besides, I don't think there's that much of hope. There is no doubt that there is a battle MS vs Adobe. One can still naively believe that Adobe "might", at some mysterious point, integrate SVG rendering in Flash. The reality is more like Adobe were anticipating on the latest MS move to actually kill ASV and, as a direct consequence, SVG. The elimination of SVG suits well both sides. It is flatly foolish to hope for any other issue from this confrontation. Alea tracta est. And we, developers, designers and programmers, will have lost millions of hours of investement and evangelizing in this process. Our clients will have lost their investment too. I can personally testify of a big client for whom I developed a thick application early 2006, dropping it, once it reached maturity, because of inconsistencies of the Xplatform situation. In regard to Opera I must say that I am sort of admirative of the fact that it rendered perfectly, unfortunately once all the features were implemented it can take up to several dozens seconds per action, with the CPU load constantly at 100%. I meant to present this application at the defunct Victoria Open, but I cannot put it out as a demo. It is fully compliant and spins perfectly with ASV on Mac or PC. Here's the abstract: "Demonstration and study of the realization process of grafting a mini operating system, or subsystem, onto an application using SVG. The script controlled SVG interface allows engineers to visually monitor programming procedures happening in parallel in microchips." I guess it would take a couple of years before Opera or Firefox will make it. It's fantastic that FF and Opera are working on native, but it all came too late, and perhaps they can't put in the necessary resources. Sure we knew the risk from the beginning but this is no reason for letting a beautiful thing like SVG die out so miserably. Up to now we've only seen the tip of the iceberg of the SVG capabilities. Whatever whoever may say there are no other solutions that can compare to that power and beauty. Please respond and subscribe for actively rescuing SVG. Domenico --- In [email protected], Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How hard would it be to package this as an "SVG plugin"? ie package > it in a windows installer a user could download and run and which > would install itself and behave as the ASV plugin does today? > > Guy > > On 07/12/2006, at 3:53 AM, T Rowley wrote: > > > On 12/6/06 10:36 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote: > >> I think I've asked before, but couldn't find my post when searching: > >> What would be the challenge in taking the Mozilla codebase and > >> turning > >> that into an ActiveX control for IE that handles XHTML and SVG > >> content? IE6 and 7 both don't support either MIME types, so this > >> would allow XHTML with SVG inline as well as SVG linked by reference > >> (HTML:object). Get that deployed far enough and you could actually > >> see XHTML and SVG start to make inroads into the web. Granted, it's > >> still a plugin, but at least it couldn't be killed by a corporation's > >> whim. > > > > Mozilla as an ActiveX control already exists: > > > > http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm > > > > You'd still be stuck with the click-to-active behavior of plugins > > in IE. > > > > -tor > > > > > > ----- > > To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -or- > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit > > my membership" > > ---- > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! 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