Hi Jon, Yes, an IE plugin is the 6th option. Not to be pedantic, but I did say "The other options outside of an IE plugin are" ;)
The "IE plugin" option covers a lot of other possible solutions in and of itself. Emiasys' Renesis is one of those, but I'm afraid they are not moving fast enough to capture market share before ASV dies out. Right now they are doing a rewrite to restructure their code for performance improvements... I would rather see them fully implement a scriptable SVG profile first... That's why I'm thinking of other open-source solutions (i.e. Mozilla, WebKit, KHTML) that already include scripting, DOM support, etc (even if other very important features are not there, such as declarative animation). Regards, Jeff --- In [email protected], Jon Ferraiolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Jeff, > Good summary of the options. There is one more option - there is always the > faint hope that someone will provide an SVG plugin to replace ASV. (Maybe > you are thinking about doing something in this direction with Mozilla.) > > In terms of Dojo2D, my understanding aligns with yours in that it does not > yet support "declarative SVG" (i.e., SVG markup) and instead requires > building an SVG model in JavaScript via their API calls. > > In looking at the dojo 0.4 source code, Dojo2D as it stands today involves > two performance intensive-transformations. First, if you start with SVG > markup, you will have to parse that markup in order to build the Dojo2D > data structures via their API calls. Second, the Dojo2D data structures > will need to be transformed into either SVG or VML within the browser so > that the graphics will render. There needs to be some accelerated code > paths for Dojo2D to be viable for complicated graphics, such as mapping. > For example, on Firefox, why not pass through the SVG markup directly to > the browser without building the Dojo2D data structures, and for IE, why > not use client-side XSLT to transform SVG markup into VML? Another > performance enhancement would be for Dojo to provide a utility which > converts SVG markup into their Dojo2D data structures by invoking their > built-in XML parser (which will build a private DOM image within > JavaScript) and then converting this into their private Dojo2D data > structures. All of this is easier said than done. I don't know what Dojo's > plans are for these enhancements. Of course, it is an open source projects, > so anyone can contribute if they are motivated and have the time. > > Jon > > Jon Ferraiolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Web Architect, Emerging Technologies > IBM, Menlo Park, CA > Mobile: +1-650-926-5865 > > > > > "Jeff Schiller" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > tmail.com> To > Sent by: svg- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > svg- [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc > hoogroups.com > Subject > [svg-developers] Re: WPF/E Goes > 12/06/2006 09:24 Beta Community preview available > AM for download > > > Please respond to > svg- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > hoogroups.com > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], T Rowley <tor@> wrote: > > Mozilla as an ActiveX control already exists: > > > > http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm > > > > You'd still be stuck with the click-to-active behavior of plugins in IE. > > The other options outside of an IE plugin are: > 1) wait until IE natively implements SVG (and XHTML while we're at it) > 2) wait until another browser becomes the dominant UA in web browsing > 3) wait until WPF/E becomes widely deployed in IE, write a library to > go from SVG to XAML (note: does this also mean the WPF/E is under the > same click-to-activate behavior in IE6?) > 4) update DENG to support full SVG (including scripting) > 5) use Dojo2D or another Ajaxy toolkit that supports SVG. To my > knowledge, Dojo2D doesn't yet support transforming declarative SVG > into VML, it's all done procedurally via scripting, if I'm not > mistaken, which means it's potentially slow, though I haven't tried it) > > Anyway, looks like the Mozilla option is "almost there" (from an > armchair perspective). But the control/project hasn't been updated in > almost a year, I've emailed Adam to ask if he's still active on it. > I'd also ask where's the Moz 1.8.1 version of the control, but a Moz > 1.8.0 version of the plugin would still be worthwhile. > > Next, how does one go about configuring an ActiveX control to handle > specific MIME types as a plugin in IE? > > > > ----- > To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > membership" > ---- > Yahoo! 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