Hi, i am always for moderated groups. and this is one of those instances. i don't think that this guy is a "real" silverlight user. he is probably one of those paid schills that are supposed to push a product through the internet, call it "corporate viral" marketing. please kick him off the group. as far as SVG is concerned. i love it!
Z T Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Right on Doug! It's especially irritating when people post nothing of substance except "ra-ra-ra"s for their preferred SVG alternative. If SVG isn't what you're interested in, unsubscribe! Guy On 26/05/2007, at 11:14 AM, Doug Schepers wrote: > Hi, Kevin and Geoff, et al- > > As owner of the SVG-Developers list, and as a strong supporter for > open > standards, I'm going to ask you politely to stop evangelizing > Silverlight on SVG-Dev (as I've asked for self-moderation in the past > regarding Flash). > > I have nothing against Silverlight, and it's fine if you want to > use it, > but it's not on-topic for our list; this is a forum for technical > questions on using SVG. Silverlight has the weight and financial > backing of Microsoft behind it; Flash and Apollo both have Adobe's > backing. All these proprietary technologies have their own mailing > lists, so I don't think they need any further advertising on this > list. > > SVG is growing steadily, and it has market relevance, but open > standards > are already at a huge disadvantage compared to proprietary > technologies > (and not for technical reasons). I feel that it is important that the > Web remain open, and part of that is ensuring that no one company > controls the languages of the Web. > > I'm not trying to censor this list, and I'm not going to block any > posts. I think that a fair and open discussion of SVG will include > some > comparison to competing technologies. It's important that SVG grow in > response to other technologies (as Silverlight derives heavily from > SVG). But it irritates me when people on this list recommend > abandoning > SVG, in favor of proprietary competitors. It's FUD, and it's not > polite. > > A more constructive activity would be to identify what features of > those > corporate technologies you find compelling, and ask for comparable > features to be added to SVG on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the W3C's public SVG > list, which the SVG WG monitors for feedback). Also, you can appeal > directly to browser vendors (or even contribute code, e.g. to Mozilla > and Batik), and let them know you need particular SVG features (I > think > that the Mozilla Corp could use some encouragement to add resources to > SVG, for example). > > It's always an individual choice whether to do the Right Thing > (tm), or > to let corporate interests take control (and frankly, sometimes you > have > no choice, out of pragmatism); but the sum of those individual choices > determines the landscape of the Web, and the degree to which it relies > on open standards. Sorry if that sounds all preachy, but it's how I > feel, and why I think SVG is more important than any similar corporate > equivalent. > > If the technical difference were more pronounced, I might feel > differently. But for most purposes, SVG is as good as its more > tightly-controlled cousins. I think the big difference is in > authoring > tool support, and there is something that can be done about that. > > I'm sure you can understand my perspective, and I hope you will honor > this request. > > > > Regards- > -Doug > > > ----- > To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit > my membership" > ---- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
