> On Feb 1, 2017, at 4:34 AM, David Hart via swift-evolution 
> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 1 Feb 2017, at 06:59, Thorsten Seitz via swift-evolution 
> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:
> 
>> While I'm not really happy with the mailing list, this is mostly due to 
>> restrictions of iOS Mail which makes keeping track of relevant threads and 
>> filtering out threads I'm not interested in difficult.
>> 
>> The mailing list has one important advantage over a web interface: most of 
>> my reading happens on a train to and from work. On this train the connection 
>> is for most parts of the ride so bad that I can't download new messages, but 
>> fortunately that is not necessary because I can read all those messages I 
>> downloaded earlier on the railway station.
>> With a web interface I expect that to be much more problematic because it 
>> would have to download each message or maybe at least each thread on demand.
> 
> Discourse has a mailing list mode to have send you and accept email replies. 
> You'd be covered.
> 

Discourse has the outward appearance of a forum. Because of that, it will 
naturally adopt the social behaviors typical of a forum. In forums, light back 
and forth is common, and there's no way for mods to "remove" messages from 
having been emailed out. Natural forum-like idle chatter can overwhelm the 
traffic of those of us who prefer mailing list mode so we can sort, track, 
flag, and filter the on-list conversations.  To get a sense, check out the 
traffic on https://swift-lang.slack.com <https://swift-lang.slack.com/> and 
https://iosdevelopers.slack.com <https://iosdevelopers.slack.com/>.

A mailing list discourages off-topic and trivial contributions.  I could easily 
see being sent dozens of emails from a single back and forth.  Increased 
traffic would force most users to migrate from email to direct Discourse forums 
and direct forum use loses the ability to flag, filter, and sort discussions. 
You can't scan, mark, and put away threads you've already dealt with. This 
would be a massive loss of utility for those of us who need to keep on top of 
language discussions for work.

I do prefer upgrading to Mailman 3.

-- E

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