hi sorry about this message just now, i realize the tone comes across a bit short to say the least. buttons were mashed incorrectly and far too soon.
again, my apologies. -z (sent from my phone) > On Feb 2, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Zach Drayer <zachary.dra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > (sent from my phone) > >> On Feb 2, 2017, at 3:15 PM, James Berry via swift-evolution >> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: >> >> >>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Nevin Brackett-Rozinsky via swift-evolution >>> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: >>> >>> Where do you propose to hold and publicize such a vote in order that the >>> people who would participate on a forum but not on a mailing list―ie. those >>> for whom the switch will be most beneficial―are enfranchised? >> >> The traditional method on a list like this is +1 or -1 in response to a >> given thread. (Note that I’m not calling for such a vote, as I have nothing >> to propose). A perhaps more modern approach would be to give a link to an >> external site that would run the vote/poll. >> >> As to your question of how to reach an audience larger than what we have now >> for a vote, I don’t see any obvious solution: the current community is what >> it is. And I would argue that the current community has invested the most >> time into the project (and likely will going forward) and should have the >> largest vote for how project communication should be facilitated. > I don't know if the idea that knowing how to use/being comfortable with using > a mailing list somehow means your input more valuable than that of someone > else is one that I'm comfortable with. > >> I wouldn’t advocate for advertising far and wide over the internet “how >> should the swift-evolution community communicate?”, as this would be a vote >> of the internet, and not of the swift-evolution community. > The entire purpose of this discussion is about how best to open > swift-evolution up to more people. Why would we ignore input from people who > may otherwise be involved? > > >> I do admit you could argue the community may have already self-selected to >> some degree based on the current method of commutation; I see no real >> solution to that apart from continued advocacy from people such as you who >> are speaking up to bring awareness about the issues you feel are keeping >> outsiders from participating. > We could try asking people in some non-mailing-list fashion? > > -z
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