It discourages trivial contributions in theory only. In practice there is no difference. I see plenty of one-line comments and corrections. Take a look at any reasonably long thread on here and I'm sure you'll see the same.
Personally I think that's an absurd reason not to move to a forum. What is your complaint? That it's _too_ inclusive? That others only have trivial things to say? Frankly, every way I try to interpret your comment makes it come off as snobbery. This change is long overdue, and I'd recommend we either start beta-testing on swift.org or somebody build a parallel site to support the style of open community which the core-team seem unwilling/unable to do. These threads come up pretty much every month. We have a proof of concept. Just like any change, there will be some esoteric cases where people are less happy, but it's frankly absurd to suggest this wouldn't be a hugely popular change. Do a formal proposal if you want -- I would lay money on it getting passed. - Karl > > On Feb 2, 2017 at 7:45 pm, <Erica Sadun via swift-evolution > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 1, 2017, at 4:34 AM, David Hart via swift-evolution > > <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1 Feb 2017, at 06:59, Thorsten Seitz via swift-evolution > > <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I'm not really happy with the mailing list, this is mostly due to > > > restrictions of iOS Mail which makes keeping track of relevant threads > > > and filtering out threads I'm not interested in difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing list has one important advantage over a web interface: most > > > of my reading happens on a train to and from work. On this train the > > > connection is for most parts of the ride so bad that I can't download new > > > messages, but fortunately that is not necessary because I can read all > > > those messages I downloaded earlier on the railway station. > > > > > > With a web interface I expect that to be much more problematic because it > > > would have to download each message or maybe at least each thread on > > > demand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discourse has a mailing list mode to have send you and accept email > > replies. You'd be covered. > > > > > > Discourse has the outward appearance of a forum. Because of that, it will > naturally adopt the social behaviors typical of a forum. In forums, light > back and forth is common, and there's no way for mods to "remove" messages > from having been emailed out. Natural forum-like idle chatter can overwhelm > the traffic of those of us who prefer mailing list mode so we can sort, > track, flag, and filter the on-list conversations. To get a sense, check > out the traffic on https://swift-lang.slack.com and > https://iosdevelopers.slack.com. > > > > A mailing list discourages off-topic and trivial contributions. I could > easily see being sent dozens of emails from a single back and forth. > Increased traffic would force most users to migrate from email to direct > Discourse forums and direct forum use loses the ability to flag, filter, and > sort discussions. You can't scan, mark, and put away threads you've already > dealt with. This would be a massive loss of utility for those of us who need > to keep on top of language discussions for work. > > > > I do prefer upgrading to Mailman 3. > > > > -- E > > > _______________________________________________ swift-evolution mailing list > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
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