> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Xiaodi Wu <[email protected]> wrote: > > Agree strongly. > > It is true, however, that a major pain point of the mailing list format is > that it is not apparent how to join an ongoing thread unless you are already > subscribed to the list. Thus, an occasional contributor must choose between > subscribing and setting up dedicated filters for Swift mailing lists or be > content only to initiate new conversations. If we could only overcome that > issue, it'd be a huge step forward.
Subscribing and only-occasionally reading/sending is not mutually exclusive though. One only needs to filter emails from a list to a folder. Most email provider/client combos handle this nicely. Once subscribed, one can retroactively participate any thread. As for threads pre-subscription, I don’t mind starting a new thread (note this happens in forums for other reasons, too). (I can see an O’Rly book titled “Advanced Mailing List” in my mind right now 😅). > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 17:24 Daniel Duan via swift-evolution > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Chris Hanson via swift-evolution >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> On Feb 2, 2017, at 2:24 PM, James Berry via swift-evolution >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Speaking for myself only, discourse seems to give me little of value, while >>> it would plaster emails with html-laden buttons, etc, thus making my >>> favored experience worse than it is today. I’m fairly happy with using a >>> gmail account and server-side filters to file my swift-evolution mails into >>> a mailbox that I can then read on or offline with the threaded email client >>> of my choice. >> >> This is my feeling as well. I also looked at the so-called “native app” for >> Discourse and it looked like just a wrapper around the web site. It wasn’t >> nearly the level of experience that I get from a high quality mail client >> like Mail.app or GMail. >> >> I would be all for a forum-like web interface to the mailing list for people >> who find mailing lists somehow lacking or who have difficulty configuring >> filters. However, I would be opposed in the strongest possible terms to >> anything that makes the mailing list interface any sort of second-class >> citizen, which is definitely what it appears switching to something like >> Discourse would do. >> > > With regard to threading: > > I’d encourage those who want web forums to give Mail.app a try. It does a > remarkable job of keeping emails threaded. (incidentally, I’ve tried a few > 3rd party email clients, the usual suspects with both iOS and macOS support, > and find them *worse* at handling mailing list style email chains). There’s > even more flexibility in the reading experience with things like Mutt where > everything is customizable. > > Overall, I feel like the maturity of email tooling is not emphasized enough > here. > >> -- Chris >> -- who would also be opposed to using something like HipChat/Slack over IRC >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swift-evolution mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution >> <https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution> > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > <https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution>
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