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> On Feb 6, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Daniel Duan via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I’ve been wondering about this for a while. What heuristic does mailman use 
> to group emails? It this really impossible even if the title, email body, 
> recipient all fits as if it’s from a existing subscriber?
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Xiaodi Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No, as you define it, they're not mutually exclusive. But maintaining the 
>> option to reply to a thread at an indeterminate point in the future when you 
>> finally get around to reading _is_ essentially mutually exclusive to not 
>> storing a copy of every email sent to the mailing list on your email account 
>> somewhere.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 18:04 Daniel Duan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Xiaodi Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Agree strongly.
>>>> 
>>>> It is true, however, that a major pain point of the mailing list format is 
>>>> that it is not apparent how to join an ongoing thread unless you are 
>>>> already subscribed to the list. Thus, an occasional contributor must 
>>>> choose between subscribing and setting up dedicated filters for Swift 
>>>> mailing lists or be content only to initiate new conversations. If we 
>>>> could only overcome that issue, it'd be a huge step forward.
>>> 
>>> Subscribing and only-occasionally reading/sending is not mutually exclusive 
>>> though. One only needs to filter emails from a list to a folder. Most email 
>>> provider/client combos handle this nicely. Once subscribed, one can 
>>> retroactively participate any thread. As for threads pre-subscription, I 
>>> don’t mind starting a new thread (note this happens in forums for other 
>>> reasons, too).
>>> 
>>> (I can see an O’Rly book titled “Advanced Mailing List” in my mind right 
>>> now 😅).
>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 17:24 Daniel Duan via swift-evolution 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Chris Hanson via swift-evolution 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 2:24 PM, James Berry via swift-evolution 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Speaking for myself only, discourse seems to give me little of value, 
>>>>>> while it would plaster emails with html-laden buttons, etc, thus making 
>>>>>> my favored experience worse than it is today. I’m fairly happy with 
>>>>>> using a gmail account and server-side filters to file my swift-evolution 
>>>>>> mails into a mailbox that I can then read on or offline with the 
>>>>>> threaded email client of my choice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is my feeling as well. I also looked at the so-called “native app” 
>>>>> for Discourse and it looked like just a wrapper around the web site. It 
>>>>> wasn’t nearly the level of experience that I get from a high quality mail 
>>>>> client like Mail.app or GMail.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would be all for a forum-like web interface to the mailing list for 
>>>>> people who find mailing lists somehow lacking or who have difficulty 
>>>>> configuring filters. However, I would be opposed in the strongest 
>>>>> possible terms to anything that makes the mailing list interface any sort 
>>>>> of second-class citizen, which is definitely what it appears switching to 
>>>>> something like Discourse would do.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> With regard to threading:
>>>> 
>>>> I’d encourage those who want web forums to give Mail.app a try. It does a 
>>>> remarkable job of keeping emails threaded. (incidentally, I’ve tried a few 
>>>> 3rd party email clients, the usual suspects with both iOS and macOS 
>>>> support, and find them *worse* at handling mailing list style email 
>>>> chains). There’s even more flexibility in the reading experience with 
>>>> things like Mutt where everything is customizable. 
>>>> 
>>>> Overall, I feel like the maturity of email tooling is not emphasized 
>>>> enough here.
>>>> 
>>>>>   -- Chris
>>>>>   -- who would also be opposed to using something like HipChat/Slack over 
>>>>> IRC
>>>>> 
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