> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:41 AM, Jan Neumüller via swift-users
> <swift-users@swift.org> wrote:
>
> I would prefer http://www.fudforum.org/ <http://www.fudforum.org/> that has
> good mailing list support, too.
Well, we appear to have completely opposite opinions on UI/usability. I took a
look at fudforum and yeah, to my eyes it exemplifies the awful clutter that’s
been a hallmark of web forums since before PHPBB. There’s so much visual noise
it’s very hard to parse or to find anything. Clearly designed by a coder with a
big hammer named “<table>”. I’m not a UI designer, but I’ve worked extensively
with UI designers (I spent 15 years at Apple working on stuff like iChat and
AppleScript) so I think I have some grounding in the field.
I do believe, though, that whatever solution swift.org <http://swift.org/>
switches to needs to have good email support. That way the people who hate the
web UI, or who just don’t prefer to use the web for discussions, can keep using
email as we do today. This is perfectly feasible to do; again, groups.io
<http://groups.io/> is a good example.
Here my concern is that I have not found a way to configure Discourse to make
its email notifications work well as a substitute for a mailing list. I have
admin privileges on a Discourse installation run by my employer, so I’ve looked
through the entire admin UI for ways to improve the emails, and some of the
problems don’t seem fixable by tweaking settings.
At this point I’m going to shut up because it sounds like the decision has been
made, and I don’t want to contribute to further bike-shedding.
—Jens
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