Fredy,

> how evil ... serious: BGP over L2TP dial up infrastructure (yes, xDSL over
> BBCS _is_ dialup) should not be implemented. We got several inquiries in the
> past years and refused them all.

I agree and I do not say that it should be if it is the real purpose of the 
project.

Anyway, who tells this is not to mesh / enhance an existing fiber/BGP network ?

There it could make sense, for example as a DRP for some vital services (DNS, 
Mail) ..

> A customer which believes to be in need of
> BGP for redundancy should be able to afford a proper leased line | fibre
> service.

When you deeply think, it's quite funny. Everybody buys fiber from G&C and 2-3 
other companies.
In case of physical cut it would be interesting to see how many people get hurt 
and it would be
even more interesting when we know how used are technologies such as C/D-WDM.

I mean, you can have 5 upstreams in your IX, at the end the duct in the road is 
likely to be the same place.

Anyway, mostly probably the customer doesn't have business-critical need if he 
is willing to do it over DSL.

 - Gregory


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-----Original Message-----

From: [email protected] on behalf of Fredy Kuenzler
Sent: Thu 05.03.2009 17:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [swinog] BGP over xDSL ... is evil
 
Reza Kordi schrieb:
> Do you know if anybody offers a VDSL upstream with BGP dynamic routing?
> 
> Customer is in ZUG city.

how evil ... serious: BGP over L2TP dial up infrastructure (yes, xDSL over
BBCS _is_ dialup) should not be implemented. We got several inquiries in the
past years and refused them all. A customer which believes to be in need of
BGP for redundancy should be able to afford a proper leased line | fibre
service.

F.

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