> not that I want to complain, but the agenda in the afternoon looks > very much like a corporate sales presentation... I mean why do we > need Sprint to tell us about trends in IP networking? Don't we know > that ourselfs? I am sure their network has less than 20ms and bla > blabla whatevery SLA and blablabla... Then the overview of an GSM/GPRS > network we already had last meeting and it wasn't that funny... > Also the DDoS solutions from riverhead are nice and I bet it works > best if all ISPs would install such a box in their networks... and > then if everyone has installed it, it can also manage all the other > problems an ISP usually has to deal with... spam, lawful inception, > blocking file sharing, sending automatic invoices on behalf of RIAA > and MPAA, etc... > > Yea, I guess in the end I am complaining. I personally rather have > Nicolas giving a talk about the newest security issues with our > equipement or Andre giving a talk about how they are crippling the > routing tables at Swisscom instead of having some carrier/vendor > sales reps giving a talk about their greatest and latest. I mean > this is SWINOG after all and not the conference part of Internet > Expo.
I fully agree that we dont want any commercial/marketing presentations :-) but I have a few comments to add... Sprint. As sponsor I think they have the right to get a timeframe for a presentation, but for sure not any kind of marketing presentation. We wont permit it. As always we check the presentations in advance to check their content. Swisscom. This would be a prestation about GSM, not GPRS at all. But this presentation will probably be canceled as the guy is a GPRS guru and we told we already had a presentation about GPRS. If some other people object to have a presentation about GSM, it will be dropped (democracy :-)). RiverHead. I saw their presenation @FRnOG and it "might" be a great product. I think many of the ISPs will be interested to see how it works etc... Yes you are complaining :-P but, complains are always welcome ... P. ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/