hi matthias thank you for writing an official statement. i hope - as it is for me - that now everything cleared up.
greetings steven ps: welcome to swinog ;-) > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Auftrag von Matthias Hertzog > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2003 23:57 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: [swinog] Domain grabbing: nextra.ch > > > Hi Folks! > > I'm now an official member of this mailing list. I've got some > mails in the > past, but those are from the times when nextra.ch domain (and company) was > operating a different way than it does today. Thanks to Christof > Roduner and > Christian Robyr (Ex Nextra) for forwarding messages from SWINOG to me. > > But first things first... > > - T-Systems purchased Nextra about 2 years ago. They've migrated > the network > and took over some leased line customers to their network. > - T-Systems informed all ex-nextra customers by letter about the > discontinuation of the hosting an messaging services in summer 2002. > - mhs took over the "hosting and messaging" customers by end of 2002 from > T-Systems. In fact, we've got some infrastructure and a list of customer > addresses. > - mhs sent letters (paperwork) to all the customers and informed > them about > the changes in december 2002. > - mhs contacted all hosting customers either by mail and/or phone > about the > planned migration. > - mhs sent mails to all customers still having delegated some domains to > ns1.nextra.ch and/or ns2.nextra.ch during january 2003 - may 2003. > - mhs requested several "technical contacts" at www.nic.ch to force a > reaction from customers who still have not changed their > nameservers to get > in position to change nameservers from nsX..nextra.ch to dnsX.mhs.ch. This > succeeded in most of tha cases. (100% success on domains delegated > "primary" to those nameservers, 90% for "secondary" domains. > > The current situation is: > > - mhs is still running ns1.nextra.ch and ns2.nextra.ch since about 50 > customers still have delegated domains to those servers. This service will > be stopped by end of 2003. > - mhs is currently (legally and officialy) holder of the domain nextra.ch. > We are under contract with T-Systems to continue running the nameservers > until end of 2003. > - by 1.1.2004, mhs will pass back the domain nextra.ch to the > current holder > of the "Markenrechte" of Nextra > - Nextra (Schweiz) AG is currently under "Liquidation" by a bern > based trust > company. > - All ex-nextra customers either have found a new solution for hosting and > messaging or hve migrated the installation to our services. (www.mhs.ch). > - Mails to @nextra.ch will be bounced with one exception: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] will reach me. This account is currently used for > testing. > - mhs did NOT illegally grabbed the domain name nextra.ch. We did > not in the > past and will not in the future. > > I hope to have pointed everything out. For additional questions, please > contact me. > > Best wishes, > Matthias Hertzog, [EMAIL PROTECTED] AG > http://www.mhs.ch > > BTW: Christian Robyr, please correct me if i've forgotten anything in my > mail. > > M.H. > > > > ----------------- > From: "Fredy Kuenzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:19 PM > Subject: [swinog] Domain grabbing: nextra.ch > > > > Since I got bounces from @nextra.ch, I thought of checking this domain > > at nic.ch, and surprise surprise: > > > > http://www.switch.ch/id/search-domain.html?dom_id=nextra.ch > > > > F. > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ > ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/