+1 for defining the template in the extension of the file, excellent idea Fabien!
On Sep 27, 4:16 pm, n8vo <nvonna...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, I don't normally participate much in the dev list but I had to > weigh in on this topic. I am very grateful to all of you for your > work on Symfony. > > I have to vote -1 against Twig. I think Jonathan Wage expressed it > well, but I want to add: > > I originally picked symfony, and have recommended it to others, > because it did NOT have its own template syntax, but used familiar > PHP. PHP was born to mix code with HTML, to be easy and hackish. It > is actually not that well suited to elegant object-oriented proper MVC > code, but it is awesome for getting things done the most direct way > possible. > > The other non-PHP frameworks I evaluated had: > * a language, like Ruby or Python or Java or C#, which is well-suited > for OOP and MVC (unlike PHP), but which I do not know and can't > quickly become productive with > * a unique template language that I can't quickly produce or debug > > There are a lot of factors involved in choosing a technology, like > corporate standards and ease of finding developers, but the "time from > adoption to productivity" and "long term quality and viability" are at > the top of my list, and symfony met them when I started with it in > 2008. I'm looking at that choice again now with Symfony 2, because it > is so different, and I have to say that default use of Twig (even if > it's possible to opt out for my own code) would make me consider non- > PHP frameworks again. > > I think I understand the appeal of Twig, but in my experience, every > template language starts out so simple, but becomes more and more > contorted and complex (like PHP did) because at some point you > actually need a full-featured language with full control logic, > objects and data structures, and especially string manipulation. Even > in a properly designed View. Making syntax shortcuts for the most > commonly used embedded code is really nice, but pretty soon you end up > with BobX (http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/We-Use-BobX.aspx). > > As to the wider community, was "use a template engine instead of PHP" > a feature on the symfony 2 feature poll? How would you measure > something like that? > > Thanks for listening, > Nathan Vonnahme > > On Sep 24, 9:41 am, Jonathan Wage <jonw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > After thinking a bit about it. I think it is not such a good idea for > > Symfony in the long term. -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony developers" group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-devs@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-devs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en
