Hi i'm studing and i'm newer,
well, one year ago i was trying to learn symfony by my way (well in those
times without internet), i could not do the hello world jaja , so i leave
symfony. now i need to finish a web system until 31 of December and alone.
two months ago i started to write the code of my application, my
abstractions were fine, my code were fine, but it took a long time, one
entire week, and nothing to see (no forms, or just a hello world), as i'm
fighting against the clock, and fortunately i remembered symfony (hoh the
damn symfony) this thing that is to dificult to learn XD but all people says
that it save a lot of time, so i thought , "well if i want to end until
December would have to lear the framework", so i started to read from
symfony website, and then started with jobeet. Ho, let me say that jobeet is
great , but after the some days it becomes boring, because, you read, copy
and paste, and then you run!, the best you can expect is that some error
occurs,then you need to realy re-read, and surf around the code, and you
finally are understanding the "framework". So i decided that if i continued
following with the bojeet tutorial i will become in a good copy-pastetor, so
i started my own mini-projects and leave the jobeet, and then the real
learning started. Now i'm happy, because i learned good programming
practices, i understand the folders structure, and i now where should i go
to fix something, and what to do for increase my application, the problem of
the sf start with many tasks i have solved by file with little notes, if it
is useful for somebody :
Installation notes symfony project
=========================================
1.-create folder named project
2 .- create folders / lib / vendor / symfony / / within this symfony symfony
decompressed
3 .- chekar if our server is fit through rootProyecto / lib / vendor /
symfony / data / bin / check_configuration.php, command line and browser. if
everything ok delete the check_configuration.php
4 .- php lib \ vendor \ symfony \ data \ bin \ symfony-V, pa see if
improperly installed. OK FYMFONY INSTALLED.
BUILDING PROJECT
5.-php lib \ vendor \ symfony \ data \ bin \ symfony generate: project
NombrProyecto
6.-copy / lib / vendor / symfony / data / bin / symfony.bat to project root
folder
BUILDING APPLICATIONS
7.-symfony generate: app - escaping-strategy = on - csrf UniqueSecret
frontend-secret = (could be any other application, by convention for the
purpose MVC is a frontend
THE ROUTE
8 .- changes in config / ProjectConfiguration.class.php line
require_once '/
Users/fabien/work/symfony/dev/1.2/lib/autoload/sfCoreAutoload.class.php'; by
require_once dirname (__FILE__ ).'/../ lib / vendor / symfony / lib /
autoload / sfCoreAutoload.class.php ';
Your project becomes portable change absolute path to relative
WEB SERVER CONFIGURATION
9 .- Paste the following in / apache / conf / httpd.conf
# Be sure to only have this line once in your configuration
NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1:8082 <- listening port number
# This is the configuration for NameProject
Listen 127.0.0.1:8082 <- listening port number
<VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:8082> <- listening port number
DocumentRoot ""
DirectoryIndex index.php
<Directory "c:\sf\nameProject\web">
AllowOverride All
Allow from All
</ Directory>
Alias / sf "c: \ sf\ nameProject \ lib \ vendor \ symfony \ data \ web \
sf"
<Directory "c:\sf\nameProject\lib\vendor\symfony\data\web\sf">
AllowOverride All
Allow from All
</ Directory>
</ VirtualHost>
save file, and restart apache
10.-creates a folder for your user stories and write in the gun ali file.
histories.txt
11.-Reliz the data schema based on the stories.
12 .- get an ER diagram
DATABASE
13.-Diagram in config / schema.yml
CREATE DATABASE
14.-mysqladmin-p create uroot-projectName
15.-we tell symfony to use Db: symfony configure: database "mysql: host =
localhost, dbname = projectName" root mysecret
16.-build the sqls of the tables: symfony propel: build-sql
17.-run the sql script for the table ipmortar db: symfony propel: insert-sql
17 .- perform object mapping through the ORM (Propel): symfony propel:
build-model
18 .- construct all homework: symfony propel: build-all - no-confirmation
19 .- clean the cache: symfony cc
INTRODUCTION OF DATA
20 .- we publish data to insert in / data / fixtures / archivos.yml
21 .- enter the data: symfony propel: data-load
Creating modules. is now visible through web
22 .- symfony propel: generate-module - with-show - non-verbose-templates
appname NombreMOdulo model. eg
symfony propel: generate-module - with-show - non-verbose-templates
frontend publication BlogPublicacion
23 .- __toString functions create () for each model class
ready, from now on, see APIs and tutorials
==========finish installation notes============
with this notes i have a project ready to increase actions in less than five
minutes. You can even do a .bat to automate the process :P.
for the forms, i just read the froms book, it is a nice book.
the definitive guide is fine, but is hard to hard all, jeje. just little
parts
now i'm finishing my first sf project, and it looks and works great, i have
added new functionalities and also modified the DB, and it still working
fine. soon i will deploy it, and then with a real experience , i will start
the real project that i must finish until december. jaj It was a real risk!!
to learn symfony, because now i have less time (one month less), but even
now , with a lot of questions and few knoledge about the many and many
features of symfony, i can produce software. and that's great!
of course nothing is perfect,
my feedback is:
- the php documentation has a lot of examples(eg: for every function),
and that is really nice and useful
- maybe a specializated guide (like the forms book) for every
subframework.(please one of routing, and other that enable one to make or
generate css files XD ok it is a work of graphics designers, but symfony
generates lot of html code, and is hard to write a css file, for example to
know some 'Id' i need to read the generated code first)
- graphics, do more graphics showing the structures, configuration files
etc. you know, reading 10%, watching 30%, and doing 60% , watching is not
too negligible.
So for me, symfony is a good way to start to do good software, fast, yes it
has a lot of configuration files, but if a parameter saves me one day of
work, i prefer to learn how the paremeter works, ask the list, read
somethings, and then use it.
well, it is just my personal experience, hope to help the project.
and yes, i need to study english grammar XD. thanks
2009/9/19 Alexandru-Emil Lupu <[email protected]>
> Well the symfony plugins part is the maintainer / creator job to keep it
> updated. But as there is no motivational thing involved (money or need to
> use it in sf 1.2 or something else that don't cross my mind atm ), i do not
> think the maintainer will do it. Instead, you might create an account on SF
> website, and become contributor to desired plugin, and create a sf1.2
> compatible version. This way, you'll know that there is a SF1.2 plugin
> available.
> Instead of
> sfShoppingCartPlugin<http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfShoppingCartPlugin>,
> you might wanna check sfShop project (google it). It has a "shoping cart"
> plugin and is written in 1.2 (if i recall right).
>
> Alecs
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, mini_alexander <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Symfony has the best documentation which I have ever seen. Jobeet
>> tutorial is very long but in this tutorial is almost everything - all
>> important things.
>> For me the worst thing in Symfony are plugins. Many good plugins are
>> old - for example shopping cart:
>> http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfShoppingCartPlugin
>> This shopping cart is for symfony 1.0 and we now have symfony 1.2 and
>> soon 1.3. And there is many that plugins. I would like to see plugins
>> in compatybile version with the newest version of symfony.
>>
>>
>> On 19 Wrz, 07:10, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On 19.09.2009, at 06:36, Jake Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Sep 18, 3:36 pm, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> On 18.09.2009, at 21:27, bghost wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> I think that the attempt of putting the entire WEB form within the
>> > >>> class
>> > >>> only unnecessarily complicate such a simple thing such is form
>> > >>> handling.
>> > >>> That's just forcing WEB developers to learn how to make simple
>> > >>> things
>> > >>> on the complicated way.
>> >
>> > >> i think this is a valid criticism. there is a clear shift away from
>> > >> having just some html/css/js guru do the templates back in symfony
>> > >> 1.0
>> > >> towards requiring a symfony expert to also handle the templates, but
>> > >> that person lacks the html/css/js guru knowhow. the pay off is
>> > >> however
>> > >> that a symfony expert can now do a lot more if he just sits down with
>> > >> the html/css/js guru to create the required widgets in pair
>> > >> programming. the quality of the site should also increase since reuse
>> > >> is done more on the widget side of things but more importantly you
>> > >> start to bring everything data related together in the models, so you
>> > >> have a single definitive source.
>> >
>> > >> so what does it all mean? teach your symfony experts some more html/
>> > >> css/js, teach your html/css/js guru some symfony .. or better yet ..
>> > >> facilitate paired programming .. and you should be off producing high
>> > >> quality more maintainable sites in less time .. but the old workflow
>> > >> of clear work separation isnt going to cut it anymore. then again,
>> > >> you
>> > >> can still keep the spirit of 1.0 in 1.2 i guess ..
>> >
>> > > You can still get the 1.0 spirit, though paired programming is not the
>> > > way to do it. And yes, for some projects, it is very important that
>> > > the designers have access to all of the HTML, including that in the
>> > > forms. Some design lead projects suffer badly from the default forms
>> > > setup in Symfony 1.2.
>> >
>> > err i was saying 1.2 projectscan benefit from paired programming while
>> > 1.0 projects allow for a clear separation. though that is not to say
>> > that paired programming even has its place there.
>> >
>> > > What's needed is a plugin that can auto-generate the CRUD forms in
>> > > nearly pure HTML, with PHP commands only handling the values that
>> > > appear in the inputs. That way, depending on the project, you could
>> > > either work with the default forms generated by Symfony, or switch
>> > > over to a system that is much more open for designers.
>> >
>> > > If I get some time later this year, I hope to work on such a plugin.
>> >
>> > sure that could be a useful addition. maybe eith some magic comments
>> > there could even be the possibility to update or at least alert of
>> > inconsistencies.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Lukas
>>
>>
>
>
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