On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Joyner<[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Ondrej Certik<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> if anyone would like to create a nice webpage for sympy.org, it'd be >> awesome. We need it, since for example now: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/sympy/ >> >> is down at the moment and we can do absolutely nothing about it. So >> there should be at least some basic info about sympy, link to docs, >> etc. Maybe we could make our front page using sphinx as well, just >> like here: >> >> http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ >> http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ >> >> Also, unrelated note, I already got about two requests from some >> students from Cuba, that google is apparently blocking sympy downloads >> for them, probably because of the US embargo [1]. Could someone >> clarify if it's illegal for us to provide downloads and do not block >> Cuba? I don't want to get into some legal troubles because of that, >> but blocking downloads seems silly to me. > > > Yes, google seems to be blocking some downloads: > http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-10-14-n65.html > I am not a lawyer but I think it is legal for you to provide > sympy for download. You are not providing a service, > Google is (marketing, for example), so they should obey > export restrictions. (It would be interesting to know if Wolfram Alpha > has implemented similar restrictions.) There is for example an > explicit export restriction in Maxima's license (which is > included in Sage), yet they provide downloads everywhere > from their sourceforge.net page. In fact, there may have been > a thread about this on sage-devel some time ago but I'm > not sure.
I looked more. The page http://www.bis.doc.gov/licensing/exportingbasics.htm refers to the control list at http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/txt/indexccl.txt The portion related to sympy is this: Software, see product group D for controls in each category Software, adaptive control . . . . . . . . . . . . 2D002.b.2 Software, adaptive control . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2D992.a Software, electronic devices . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2D002 Software, for coordinating function of multiple subsystems for use in missiles9D105 Software, for potable electric generator development or production2D994 Software for Nuclear materials, facilities and equipment0D001 Software, multi-data-stream processing equipment operating systems 4D003.a Software, numerical control. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2D002 Software, real time processing in machine tools. . . 2D002.b Software, real time processing equipment operating systems4D993.c Software, recovery of source code. . . . . . . . . 5D001.c.2 "Software" specially designed or modified for the "development", "production" or "use" of equipment controlled by 2A9832D983 "Software" specially designed for the "development" of the equipment controlled by 3A0033D004 Software, multi-data-stream processing equipment compilers4D003.a Since sympy does not control a machine of some type in some way, I think you are okay. Maxima is not on this list either but Maxima was produced in part by the DOE, so presumably it was required to obey export control for other reasons. > > >> >> In any case, this page doesn't seem to be blocked: >> >> http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-sympy >> >> so we can provide a link to the latest tarball in there from our main >> page at sympy.org. It would run on a virtual machine and I'll provide >> access to all sympy developers, so that if something breaks, anyone >> could fix it, who is awake at the moment. >> >> >> Ondrej >> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba >> >> >> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sympy?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
