So then the only thing remaining on Google Code will be the issues?

Aaron
On Jul 1, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote:

>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:23 PM, David Joyner<[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Joyner<[email protected]>  
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Ondrej Certik<[email protected]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> if anyone would like to create a nice webpage for sympy.org, it'd  
>>>> be
>>>> awesome. We need it, since for example now:
>>>>
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/sympy/
>>>>
>>>> is down at the moment and we can do absolutely nothing about it. So
>>>> there should be at least some basic info about sympy, link to docs,
>>>> etc. Maybe we could make our front page using sphinx as well, just
>>>> like here:
>>>>
>>>> http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
>>>> http://sphinx.pocoo.org/
>>>>
>>>> Also, unrelated note, I already got about two requests from some
>>>> students from Cuba, that google is apparently blocking sympy  
>>>> downloads
>>>> for them, probably because of the US embargo [1]. Could someone
>>>> clarify if it's illegal for us to provide downloads and do not  
>>>> block
>>>> Cuba? I don't want to get into some legal troubles because of that,
>>>> but blocking downloads seems silly to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, google seems to be blocking some downloads:
>>> http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-10-14-n65.html
>>> I am not a lawyer but I think it is legal for you to provide
>>> sympy for download. You are not providing a service,
>>> Google is (marketing, for example), so they should obey
>>> export restrictions. (It would be interesting to know if Wolfram  
>>> Alpha
>>> has implemented similar restrictions.) There is for example an
>>> explicit export restriction in Maxima's license (which is
>>> included in Sage), yet they provide downloads everywhere
>>> from their sourceforge.net page. In fact, there may have been
>>> a thread about this on sage-devel some time ago but I'm
>>> not sure.
>>
>> I looked more. The page http://www.bis.doc.gov/licensing/exportingbasics.htm
>> refers to the control list at
>> http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/txt/indexccl.txt
>> The portion related to sympy is this:
>>
>> Software, see product group D for controls in each category
>> Software, adaptive control . . . . . . . . . . . . 2D002.b.2
>> Software, adaptive control . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2D992.a
>> Software, electronic devices . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2D002
>> Software, for coordinating function of multiple subsystems for use in
>> missiles9D105
>> Software, for potable electric generator development or  
>> production2D994
>> Software for Nuclear materials, facilities and equipment0D001
>> Software, multi-data-stream processing equipment operating systems  
>> 4D003.a
>> Software, numerical control. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2D002
>> Software, real time processing in machine tools. . . 2D002.b
>> Software, real time processing equipment operating systems4D993.c
>> Software, recovery of source code. . . . . . . . . 5D001.c.2
>> "Software" specially designed or modified for the "development",
>> "production" or "use" of equipment controlled by 2A9832D983
>> "Software" specially designed for the "development" of the equipment
>> controlled by 3A0033D004
>> Software, multi-data-stream processing equipment compilers4D003.a
>>
>> Since sympy does not control a machine of some type in some way,
>> I think you are okay. Maxima is not on this list either but Maxima  
>> was
>> produced in part by the DOE, so presumably it was required to obey
>> export control
>> for other reasons.
>
>
> Many thanks for looking into that David. I think we'll create a sphinx
> like frontpage and put there links to downloads (also other than
> google code, so that it's not restricted), then we should be fine.
>
> Ondrej
>
> >


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