Hi.

On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 16:29 +0000, John Carr wrote:
> Stuff I had wanted to see before 0.11:
> 
>  * Data loss bug on WM6 phones when partnership is deleted -  jagow is
> close on that

Agreed.

>  * Mess with wbxml. I have some basic pure python wbxml that we could
> think about using, but i'm almost ashamed to admit it right now - not
> really had time for it and code is a messy port of some PHP 

Is that based on the PHP-based Exchange/Activesync server/application
that I was linked to from #synce? I definitely think this is important,
but perhaps not enough to work on before 0.11..

>  * HAL integration - a HAL callout that:
>    * dhcp-ifies a device
>    * starts odccm with the ips that dhcp sorted out (if not running)
>    * starts sync-engine (if not running)
> 
> If this doesn't make it for 0.11, any objections to a 0.12 closely
> following when these bits are ready?

I prefer the sound of closely after 0.11. I remember reading the HAL
guide on a bus a while ago -- what you speak of wouldn't be that hard,
would it?

>         * Simplifying the installation process, significantly.
> 
> Helping main distros get everything packaged and the hal callout i
> mentioned should do this.

Mmm, good point -- the automation could easily go in the packaging. This
would mean that it would be more seamless than if we tried to generalise
the automation across all distros. However, this would involve having a
super packaging-push -- this is a good thing however. What would be
needed -- Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, originally I think.

> I'd like to see odccm be per device if its possible. And use HAL to
> close each odccm when its own device is removed.. Any device
> properties should be stashed in HAL rather than apps having to talk to
> odccm. It seems a large chunk of odccm is boilerplate :-( 

Personally I don't really see the point in supporting multiple devices
in odccm -- about 1 in 100 users need it, and I can't imagine it taking
next-to-no time to implement too.

> In terms of supporting device passwords, blackberry also works in a
> similar way and i'm pushing for some freedesktop-ish hook for storing
> passwords in the keyring so that they can be automatically unlocked -
> where we share as much as possible with barry (which is effectively
> the synce of blackberry) 

Can you expand on this please? What keyring? Blackberry works in what
similar way -- is this having the password-entry on the device?

> There is no "modern" way to sync 2003 devices. You seem to have to use
> ancient programs like a pre-opensync version of multisync. About 1 in
> 5 #synce requests is WM2003 related... That was a guess. Enough for it
> to bother me that we don't offer support any more :P 

So you think we should stop releasing specific WM2003 modules too
(synce-serial)?

> I presume vdcccm won't support WM6? It also doesn't work with
> sync-engine. Unfortunately dropping it hurts KDE users, who often ask
> about RAKI. I have no idea what exactly that is, but seems not to work
> with odccm. Yet. I am strongly in favor of having just one *dccm.
> Either RAKI support in odccm or another standalone proggy, or vdccm
> needs to be extended for WM6 and needs to be made to work with
> sync-engine? 

No I don't think vdccm does work with WM6. You bring up RAKI, but
remember that isn't a proper SynCE module now -- it was not released
with 0.10.0.

Thanks,

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Jonny Lamb, UK                           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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