> > I like the HAL idea alot, but i don't know if HAL reacts to eg a
> > bluetooth device connecting to the PC
> 
> There is a project underway somewhere to take care of that. "Not yet"
> would be the response.
> 

Good, this was one of the "problem" areas I had thought of. Quick aside,
anyone tried a WM5 bluetooth connection in the current framework ? How
does it work.

> > > Have been in talks with Ubuntu (wrt Conduit and sync that "just works"
> > > - you plug it in and it says "where sync to.. k thx bye") and its
> > > likely that we'll see some support into pulling the latest and
> > > greatest into the next release (probably more in terms of acceptance
> > > rather than actual man hours)...
> >
> > I wrote that initial draft, conduit seems like an excellent 'glue' to
> > tie synce and eg gnokii together.
> 
> Tis great to here acceptance (wrt conduit). Its taken a lot to get so
> far, and some peoples attitudes just make you want to give in.
> 
> > > There is no "modern" way to sync 2003 devices. You seem to have to use
> > > ancient programs like a pre-opensync version of multisync. About 1 in
> > > 5 #synce requests is WM2003 related... That was a guess. Enough for it
> > > to bother me that we don't offer support any more :P

Interesting, obviously I dont hang out on #synce, not nearly enough
time, but are these generally connection or sync based problems ? Again,
I would guess half the problems are due to having too many options with
with up to date guidance rather than being real bugs, but I'm guessing.

> >
> > You want to drop WM2003?
> 
> Hope my reply got through! No, my desire was that jagow might be able
> to resurrect the RRA stuff inside sync-engine.
> 

Go jagow !

> > > I presume vdcccm won't support WM6? It also doesn't work with
> > > sync-engine. Unfortunately dropping it hurts KDE users, who often ask
> > > about RAKI. I have no idea what exactly that is, but seems not to work
> > > with odccm. Yet. I am strongly in favor of having just one *dccm.
> > > Either RAKI support in odccm or another standalone proggy, or vdccm
> > > needs to be extended for WM6 and needs to be made to work with
> > > sync-engine?
> >

vdccm with WM6, don't know, but would guess it works fine.

vdccm with sync-engine, don't know, have a pre WM5 device, go jagow !
Sorry John, no pressure :)

Raki support in odccm is not going to happen, it would be messy. odccm
support in Raki however, is very simple for anyone who can do dbus in C
++, if anyone can please step up, I'll tell you exactly what needs to be
done. I can do dbus but not C++. This will also be the case with
hal-dccm.

An alternative is a fake vdccm on top of odccm/hal-dccm, I can do this
when I clone myself :)

> > vdccm also works with the ancient multisync for wm2003 devices
> 

wm2003 multisync works with any *dccm. Anything that uses pure rapi
calls should.

> With the work that jagow and mark are doing that won't matter - we can
> have a nice working and modern opensync/sync-engine/odccm. Really
> don't want to have to figure out and document years old releases of
> things :-)
> 

Could be fun, people could read it to respond "you used to have to do
what !!!!" :)

Mark


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