On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 14:48 +0000, Philip Aston wrote:
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> > From: Philip Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Mark Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: pyrapi2
> > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:46:39 +0000
> > 
> > Clean install Debian Lenny is up & running on another box; due to lack
> > of hd space I have gnome and not kdesktop there. synCE software
> > installed from apt without difficulty, and I haven't changed
> > sources.list.
> > 

So what versions of synce software are you now using ?

> > I'm able to connect with raki from terminal & synce-serial-start from
> > root terminal, and am back to "no synchronizer found for..." I think
> > appointment is the important one but would like to do contacts if poss.
> > 

What dccm are you using ? Does pstatus work ?

Does the message "no synchronizer found for..." come from raki ? Raki
hasn't been maintained for some time.

> > Ksync gets all sorts of errors, multisync doesn't do anthing as a sync
> > between winCE device and Ximian Evolution plugin- altho I suspect it
> > isn't actually finding my device at all. I'll probably leave this method
> > alone

Back to the does pstatus work question.

Ksync I have no idea about. Which multisync are you trying to use, the
old 0.82 or the new 0.90 ? 0.90 uses opensync and sync-engine, and does
not yet work with WM2003. 0.82 will work, you need the
synce-multisync-plugin. Please confirm your connection works first.

> > 
> > As I now have a "clean" system to work with, what would be the best
> > place to start looking for the missing synchronizers? -Phil
> > 
> > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 01:52 +0000, Mark Ellis wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 23:08 +0000, Philip Aston wrote:
> > > > Thanks Mark, I suspect I'll wait until a clean install rather than 
> > > > manually
> > > > delete files and risk making more spectacular errors (and there have 
> > > > been
> > > > many during my Linux adventures!). I have actually started by removing 
> > > > all
> > > > the apt packages, commenting out the ""sid" lines in sources.list, 
> > > > apt-get
> > > > update then reinstalling from my usual sources.list (started out as 
> > > > Debian
> > > > etch but since updated to lenny)- that's why I say I have Debian Lenny 
> > > > with
> > > > several "unstable" packages where these are required eg for Sony 
> > > > Ericsson
> > > > phones.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Cool, sometimes it's easier to start from scratch when you have a lot of
> > > source builds hanging around. It's for this reason I originally learnt
> > > how to build debs, so the package manager always new what was what, but
> > > that's another story...
> > > 
> > > > I was then able to start Raki and connect with synce-serial-start. 
> > > > Configure
> > > > option within raki returned "no synchronizer installed".
> > > > Only "unstable" has syncekonnector- so I uncommented sid again to get 
> > > > it.
> > > > After installation, I came back to "wrong library type"- so, unless
> > > > syncekonnector is itself confused by conflicting library files, it may 
> > > > be
> > > > that the problem is not caused by svn or other source-built packages, 
> > > > but by
> > > > a dependency within syncekonnector. At this point most of the apps are 
> > > > from
> > > > testing but that is, as you say, easily overcome.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I dont know anything about syncekonnector, so cant really comment, but I
> > > don't think its been maintained for some time.
> > > 
> > > > This may be an oversimplification but I would guess that library sharing
> > > > within apt is unlikely to produce conflicts, and that, if a source-built
> > > > package has  replaced a library file or changed a path, reinstallation 
> > > > from
> > > > apt (which is operated as root) should change it back again.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Not sure what you mean by library sharing exactly, but yes, reinstalling
> > > a package with apt will replace anything that has been overwritten.
> > > 
> > > > As it happens I am also working on a self-build with a "pure" Debian 
> > > > Lenny
> > > > system from the testing iso rather than etch + update. I'll see what 
> > > > happens
> > > > to my ipaq, and report back- then I could temporarily add "unstable" to
> > > > sources.list to get the raki, rapi, and synce packages if necessary. 
> > > > What do
> > > > you think?-Phil
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Debian tends to be very good with upgrades, so straight lenny will
> > > probably not differ much from etch + lenny update.
> > > 
> > > If you want to pick certain packages from unstable or experimental, the
> > > best way is to keep those extries in sources.list, and add the following
> > > to /etc/apt/preferences
> > > 
> > > Package: *
> > > Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable
> > > Pin-Priority: 400
> > > 
> > > Package: *
> > > Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> > > Pin-Priority: 900
> > > 
> > > Package: *
> > > Pin: release o=Debian,a=unstable
> > > Pin-Priority: 300
> > > 
> > > Package: *
> > > Pin: release o=Debian,a=experimental
> > > Pin-Priority: 100
> > > 
> > > Package: *
> > > Pin: release o=Debian
> > > Pin-Priority: -1
> > > 
> > > In short, testing is given the highest importance (Pin-Priority),
> > > followed by stable, unstable and experimental, and apt will always try
> > > to use packages from preferred suites. Since it knows about unstable
> > > packages though, it's easy to force it to install a higher version for a
> > > particular package.
> > > 
> > > This is particularly useful now Jonny has got 0.11 libsynce*, librapi*
> > > and librra* into unstable.
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
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