On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 10:17 +0000, Mark Ellis wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 14:48 +0000, Philip Aston wrote:
> > email message attachment, "Forwarded message - RE: pyrapi2"
> > > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > > From: Philip Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Mark Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: RE: pyrapi2
> > > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:46:39 +0000
> > > 
> > > Clean install Debian Lenny is up & running on another box; due to lack
> > > of hd space I have gnome and not kdesktop there. synCE software
> > > installed from apt without difficulty, and I haven't changed
> > > sources.list.
> > > 
> 
> So what versions of synce software are you now using ?



Full list installed from apt, including dependencies:
agsynce

librapi2

libsynce0

libmultisync-plugin-all (these files are 0.82.8)

bluez-audio

bluez-utils

libcurl3

libmultisync-plugin-backup

libmultisync-plugin evolution

libmultisync-plugin irmc

libmultisync-plugin irmc-bluetooth

libmultisync-plugin opie

libopenobex1

libssh 2-1

multisync 0.82.8

opensync-plugin-evolution 0.19.1+b1

libopensync0

syncw-dccm 0.9.1-3

libraoi2-tools

libsamplerate0

libsox-fmt-alsa

libsox-fmt-base

libsox0

sox

synce-kde 0.9.1.1

libdynamite0

libmimedir0

liborange0

librra0

libunshield0

synce-kde-dev 0.9.1.1 (note: includes RAPIP RAKI VDCCM)

synce-multisync-plugin 0.9.0.4

synce-serial 0.9.1.3.1

libcap 0.8

ppp

dhcp3-client





> > > I'm able to connect with raki from terminal & synce-serial-start from
> > > root terminal, and am back to "no synchronizer found for..." I think
> > > appointment is the important one but would like to do contacts if poss.
> > > 
> 
> What dccm are you using ? Does pstatus work ?
> 

I can't locate pstatus in apt & it doesn't work as command, user or
root, there is no man pstatus on my system.


> Does the message "no synchronizer found for..." come from raki ? Raki
> hasn't been maintained for some time.
> 

Yes. Actually I have only ever been able to connect using RAKI. I start
it first from menu, then synce-serial-start from terminal.
What daemon should I be using? I see dccm, vdccm, odccm referred to.
Should I start one of these from terminal?


> > > Ksync gets all sorts of errors, multisync doesn't do anthing as a sync
> > > between winCE device and Ximian Evolution plugin- altho I suspect it
> > > isn't actually finding my device at all. I'll probably leave this method
> > > alone
> 
> Back to the does pstatus work question.
> 
> Ksync I have no idea about. Which multisync are you trying to use, the
> old 0.82 or the new 0.90 ? 0.90 uses opensync and sync-engine, and does
> not yet work with WM2003. 0.82 will work, you need the
> synce-multisync-plugin. Please confirm your connection works first.
> 

I clearly need to go back to the beginning. I have installed the above
list & not messed with anything else. As I haven't installed RAKI what
should I use to connect?

Mark, thanks for your patience. If you think I need to read something
please let me know... just that info on WinCE is a bit specialized and
hides in odd threads & postings. Eg I probably should have known that
the svn packages weren't for WinCE 03 devices but just never found that
essential detail even after much searching. Perhaps at the end of all
this I'll write a HOWTO! -Phil

> > > 
> > > As I now have a "clean" system to work with, what would be the best
> > > place to start looking for the missing synchronizers? -Phil
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 01:52 +0000, Mark Ellis wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 23:08 +0000, Philip Aston wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Mark, I suspect I'll wait until a clean install rather than 
> > > > > manually
> > > > > delete files and risk making more spectacular errors (and there have 
> > > > > been
> > > > > many during my Linux adventures!). I have actually started by 
> > > > > removing all
> > > > > the apt packages, commenting out the ""sid" lines in sources.list, 
> > > > > apt-get
> > > > > update then reinstalling from my usual sources.list (started out as 
> > > > > Debian
> > > > > etch but since updated to lenny)- that's why I say I have Debian 
> > > > > Lenny with
> > > > > several "unstable" packages where these are required eg for Sony 
> > > > > Ericsson
> > > > > phones.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Cool, sometimes it's easier to start from scratch when you have a lot of
> > > > source builds hanging around. It's for this reason I originally learnt
> > > > how to build debs, so the package manager always new what was what, but
> > > > that's another story...
> > > > 
> > > > > I was then able to start Raki and connect with synce-serial-start. 
> > > > > Configure
> > > > > option within raki returned "no synchronizer installed".
> > > > > Only "unstable" has syncekonnector- so I uncommented sid again to get 
> > > > > it.
> > > > > After installation, I came back to "wrong library type"- so, unless
> > > > > syncekonnector is itself confused by conflicting library files, it 
> > > > > may be
> > > > > that the problem is not caused by svn or other source-built packages, 
> > > > > but by
> > > > > a dependency within syncekonnector. At this point most of the apps 
> > > > > are from
> > > > > testing but that is, as you say, easily overcome.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I dont know anything about syncekonnector, so cant really comment, but I
> > > > don't think its been maintained for some time.
> > > > 
> > > > > This may be an oversimplification but I would guess that library 
> > > > > sharing
> > > > > within apt is unlikely to produce conflicts, and that, if a 
> > > > > source-built
> > > > > package has  replaced a library file or changed a path, 
> > > > > reinstallation from
> > > > > apt (which is operated as root) should change it back again.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Not sure what you mean by library sharing exactly, but yes, reinstalling
> > > > a package with apt will replace anything that has been overwritten.
> > > > 
> > > > > As it happens I am also working on a self-build with a "pure" Debian 
> > > > > Lenny
> > > > > system from the testing iso rather than etch + update. I'll see what 
> > > > > happens
> > > > > to my ipaq, and report back- then I could temporarily add "unstable" 
> > > > > to
> > > > > sources.list to get the raki, rapi, and synce packages if necessary. 
> > > > > What do
> > > > > you think?-Phil
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Debian tends to be very good with upgrades, so straight lenny will
> > > > probably not differ much from etch + lenny update.
> > > > 
> > > > If you want to pick certain packages from unstable or experimental, the
> > > > best way is to keep those extries in sources.list, and add the following
> > > > to /etc/apt/preferences
> > > > 
> > > > Package: *
> > > > Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable
> > > > Pin-Priority: 400
> > > > 
> > > > Package: *
> > > > Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> > > > Pin-Priority: 900
> > > > 
> > > > Package: *
> > > > Pin: release o=Debian,a=unstable
> > > > Pin-Priority: 300
> > > > 
> > > > Package: *
> > > > Pin: release o=Debian,a=experimental
> > > > Pin-Priority: 100
> > > > 
> > > > Package: *
> > > > Pin: release o=Debian
> > > > Pin-Priority: -1
> > > > 
> > > > In short, testing is given the highest importance (Pin-Priority),
> > > > followed by stable, unstable and experimental, and apt will always try
> > > > to use packages from preferred suites. Since it knows about unstable
> > > > packages though, it's easy to force it to install a higher version for a
> > > > particular package.
> > > > 
> > > > This is particularly useful now Jonny has got 0.11 libsynce*, librapi*
> > > > and librra* into unstable.
> > > > 
> > > > Mark
> > > > 
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