Thanks for all the advice, I'm going to take a while & play with the
suggestions when time. I can't locate an apt/preferences file to insert
the code re "pin" but don't mind uncommenting the "sid" line in
sources.list for the odd package. Also I'm assuming now that I'll be
working in terminal, i.e I'll need to check out man pages for the
packages you suggest, & I'm still don't really know how to run pstatus
(as you say, I do have librapi. I'll have  a good try & post again in a
little while if stuck or if I get a result-Phil

On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 09:14 +0000, Mark Ellis wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > So what versions of synce software are you now using ?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Full list installed from apt, including dependencies:
> > > > agsynce
> > > > 
> > > > librapi2
> > > > 
> > > > libsynce0
> > > > 
> > > > libmultisync-plugin-all (these files are 0.82.8)
> > > > 
> > > > bluez-audio
> > > > 
> > > > bluez-utils
> > > > 
> > > > libcurl3
> > > > 
> > > > libmultisync-plugin-backup
> > > > 
> > > > libmultisync-plugin evolution
> > > > 
> > > > libmultisync-plugin irmc
> > > > 
> > > > libmultisync-plugin irmc-bluetooth
> > > > 
> > > > libmultisync-plugin opie
> > > > 
> > > > libopenobex1
> > > > 
> > > > libssh 2-1
> > > > 
> > > > multisync 0.82.8
> > > > 
> > > > opensync-plugin-evolution 0.19.1+b1
> > > > 
> > > > libopensync0
> > > > 
> > > > syncw-dccm 0.9.1-3
> > > 
> > > Remove synce-dccm, it's obsolete.
> > done
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > libraoi2-tools
> > > > 
> > > > libsamplerate0
> > > > 
> > > > libsox-fmt-alsa
> > > > 
> > > > libsox-fmt-base
> > > > 
> > > > libsox0
> > > > 
> > > > sox
> > > > 
> > > > synce-kde 0.9.1.1
> > > > 
> > > > libdynamite0
> > > > 
> > > > libmimedir0
> > > > 
> > > > liborange0
> > > > 
> > > > librra0
> > > > 
> > > > libunshield0
> > > > 
> > > > synce-kde-dev 0.9.1.1 (note: includes RAPIP RAKI VDCCM)
> > > > 
> > > > synce-multisync-plugin 0.9.0.4
> > > > 
> > > > synce-serial 0.9.1.3.1
> > > > 
> > > > libcap 0.8
> > > > 
> > > > ppp
> > > > 
> > > > dhcp3-client
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok, I'm going to assume these all come from debian lenny, and you have
> > > no extra repositories listed. Tell me if I'm wrong.
> > > 
> > That's correct.
> > 
> > > These packages are very old, but they will suffice depending on what you
> > > want to do.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm able to connect with raki from terminal & synce-serial-start 
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > root terminal, and am back to "no synchronizer found for..." I 
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > appointment is the important one but would like to do contacts if 
> > > > > > > poss.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What dccm are you using ? Does pstatus work ?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I can't locate pstatus in apt & it doesn't work as command, user or
> > > > root, there is no man pstatus on my system.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The old debian packages prefixed everything synce-, so it would be
> > > synce-pstatus.
> > 
> > Still unable to locate... I used the search on synaptic so anything with
> > pstatus would come up anyway. Is it available on the sid repository?
> > 
> 
> It's in the librapi2-tools package.
> 
> http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages is better than the local package
> search.
> 
> > > > > Does the message "no synchronizer found for..." come from raki ? Raki
> > > > > hasn't been maintained for some time.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yes. Actually I have only ever been able to connect using RAKI. I start
> > > > it first from menu, then synce-serial-start from terminal.
> > > > What daemon should I be using? I see dccm, vdccm, odccm referred to.
> > > > Should I start one of these from terminal?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > Ksync gets all sorts of errors, multisync doesn't do anthing as a 
> > > > > > > sync
> > > > > > > between winCE device and Ximian Evolution plugin- altho I suspect 
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > isn't actually finding my device at all. I'll probably leave this 
> > > > > > > method
> > > > > > > alone
> > > > > 
> > > > > Back to the does pstatus work question.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ksync I have no idea about. Which multisync are you trying to use, the
> > > > > old 0.82 or the new 0.90 ? 0.90 uses opensync and sync-engine, and 
> > > > > does
> > > > > not yet work with WM2003. 0.82 will work, you need the
> > > > > synce-multisync-plugin. Please confirm your connection works first.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I clearly need to go back to the beginning. I have installed the above
> > > > list & not messed with anything else. As I haven't installed RAKI what
> > > > should I use to connect?
> > > > 
> > > > Mark, thanks for your patience. If you think I need to read something
> > > > please let me know... just that info on WinCE is a bit specialized and
> > > > hides in odd threads & postings. Eg I probably should have known that
> > > > the svn packages weren't for WinCE 03 devices but just never found that
> > > > essential detail even after much searching. Perhaps at the end of all
> > > > this I'll write a HOWTO! -Phil
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I think you just jumped in to the middle a bit, we'll get there in the
> > > end. For instance, everything in svn works fine with 2003 devices,
> > > except sync-engine.
> > > 
> > > I think we need to establish exactly what you want to accomplish before
> > > we go any further. I guess you want to sync your PIM items, with what
> > > software on the host ? Evolution ?
> > > 
> > Yes, only evolution: contacts,calendar, possibly todo list although not
> > essential. I seldom use it now but have vista as dual boot on this (new)
> > box so could use activesync + outlook if I have to, also I have paired
> > with a work computer to keep a backup, but all other boxes I work with
> > are linux only. File transfer is helpful but I generally use sd card for
> > that. 
> > 
> > Once again, thanks. I'll be experimenting with the clean install
> > system,as described above, not this one, so any mistakes even to the
> > extent of needing another clean install won't be costly. It's a 1998
> > AMD266 motherboard with 192k ram, lots of salvaged hardware, works well.
> > 
> 
> Ok, you can either stick with the versions you have, which will probably
> work but are quite old, or Jonny has got nearly everything up to date in
> sid (yay Jonny !). Refer back to my older mail about pinning if you want
> to get certain things from sid.
> 
> You need a dccm, either the vdccm you have from synce-kde, or odccm from
> sid. You also need synce-serial. Run synce-serial-config first. Start
> whichever dccm you want to use, vdccm has to run as your user, odccm has
> to run as root. Actually if you've got odccm from sid it has a
> bootscript and will already be running. Then run synce-serial-start. If
> all goes well this gives you a connection.
> 
> The reason raki worked was that it runs vdccm for you.
> 
> Try pstatus or pls from librapi2-tools, if you're using the old versions
> they may be prefixed synce-
> 
> If this works you have a connection. You cant get further unless this
> works.
> 
> To sync you need multisync 0.82, and synce-multisync-plugin, with
> libmultisync-plugin-evolution and librra0-tools. I havent done this for
> a while, but I think you first need to run synce-matchmaker create, then
> fire up multisync and create a new sync partnership.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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