David,

Your actions as co-chair of this group represent a conflict of interest
for so long as Huawei maintains it has an intellectual property claim
with respect to its work.  I would request that you either step down as
co-chair of the group, cease employment with Huawei or convince Huawei
to cease the IPR action.  Of course the latter two of these are not what
I would call reasonable demands to make of anyone given that there are
financial issues (and more) involved, but I would request that you
step down as co-chair of this group.

I would also ask Darren Moffat (and others within this IETF group)
to ignore this request and others coming from you, regardless of their
relevance to the IPR,  because your involvement with Huawei makes you
unfit for this role within the syslog IETF group.  If you do not wish
to step down then the best we can do is to ignore your attempts to
continue to function in this role and continue to apply pressure for
it to be resolved.

This group needs to develop open standards, not IP for Huawei.
Your involvement as co-chair and Huawei's IPR claim cast that
shadow over this group.

I'm sure we all would welcome your continued involvement with the
group, just not as co-chair.  If Chris is having difficulties with
managing the IETF side of things by himself then I'm sure we can
find someone else to fill in for you.  In no way am I implying you
are doing a bad role now or in the past, just that your current
association makes you ineligable for being co-chair.

Cheers,
Darren

> Hi Darren,
> 
> I don't know them well enough to comment.
> Are you willing to write one or two drafts proposing these as possible
> solutions so the WG can evaluate them as alternatives?
> 
> David Harrington
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:14 AM
> > To: Miao Fuyou
> > Cc: 'David Harrington'; 'Rainer Gerhards'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives
> > 
> > Miao Fuyou wrote:
> > > real "general" security mechanisms(except IPsec, but it is not
> > > application-friendly). So, IMHO the primary criteria for 
> > selection is: is it
> > > convenient for the application to invoke the security 
> > service provided by
> > > the security protocol? 
> > 
> > That to me sounds like GSSAPI or SASL.
> > 
> > Any reason these aren't being considered ?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Darren J Moffat
> > 
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