Darren, I think we have been through this. I see your point and I agree that the IPR action is, well, unfortunate ;) [I had some stronger words in previous posts and still fully support them] I also understand and to some extent support the position that there is some personal liability of a high-rank person with the companie's actions.
HOWEVER, I do not find it productive to try to force David out of this. Yes, there is a problem. We are aware of it. I think we can handle it. But David's advise is very well thought-out, he has lots of IETF experience and he is still willing to help. I also can only spekulate on his personal involvement in the IPR issue. I do not know what he has advised. Also, I think we *need* his help if we intend to reach our goal. I still very much welcome him in the co-chair position. If for all upcoming next drafts similar IPR issues from Huawei arise, I would very probably be fully on your side. So far, I consider it as a single case and hope that the lessions are already learned. Actually, I am not ready to sacrifice a syslog standard for the sake of penalizing Huawei. That wouldn't help anything ... and it wouldn't even be smart ;) Huawei (and the probably just unfortunate I-D editors) is already penalized by the growind dis-acceptance of the TLS draft. I personally would also object any further I-D author from Huawei right at this stage. This is not because I distrust the author but Huawei's legal department. We have put so much work into this syslog effort, we shouldn't give up just because of a single incident. And IMHO we give up on it if we try to fight out this issue right at that time. I suggest we cool down a little and let things evolve. That will also provide better picture of who does what. Just my 2cts, but I hope I find support for it. Rainer > -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:48 AM > To: David Harrington > Cc: 'Chris Lonvick'; Rainer Gerhards; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Syslog] IESG secure transport requirement can > be quicklysolved... > > > Hi, > > > > [speaking as co-chair] > > Please resign as co-chair. > > Your company is involed with IPR action regarding the work of this > group and until your company gives up this path, we cannot accept > any direction or input from you as co-chair. > > I ask all those in this working group to ignore any email from David > Harrington in his role as co-chair as it compromises the abililty > of this working group to produce free, open standards. > > Darren > _______________________________________________ Syslog mailing list Syslog@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/syslog
