> It's about Requires and After. I think a unit in Requires should imply > that unit in After too, otherwise the requirement isn't really met. > Is there a use case for Requires but not After?
Olaf, previously, on GitHub, you had said: >> I think I understand Requires and After ... and, I would suggest that, no - or you would not be asking this question. systemd has two different classes of "dependencies": 1) "activation" dependencies, and 2) "ordering" dependencies. An activation dependency does not, a priori, have to obey any rules about ordering. There are not, automatically, any promises or guarantees about in what order service units, for instance, might be queued for execution, based upon a Requires= dependency. "Ordering" is an independent characteristic from "Activation". "Activation" only promises to enqueue a unit, and then, only if the unit is some kind of unit that can be "executed", such as a timer or service unit. In contrast, for instance, systemd is only a "passive observer" of a device unit. "enqueuing" a device unit for "activation" would make no sense in this context. A *service* unit that *creates* a device unit could be enqueued for activation, but not the device unit itself. If "A Requires B", and you don't like that "A" *might* get enqueued, or get executed, before "B", then add an "ordering" dependency. "Ordering dependencies", then, create guarantees about unit activation *ordering*. Are you sure that you were not wondering about "Requisite=", instead of "Requires="? Because, as far as I know, "Requisite=" is completely broken in systemd. _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
