>>> Andrei Borzenkov <arvidj...@gmail.com> schrieb am 14.05.2019 um 08:40 in
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:35 AM Ulrich Windl
> <ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de> wrote:
>> I knew that. It doesn't answer _why_ /var/run is obsolete.
> /var/run needs /var which is not guaranteed to be there when you need
> it which complicates things.


I'll start a new thread on this (I wanted to ask anyway):
AFAIK systemd does socket communication a lot, while old init was happy with 
just a root filesystem.
So I wonder how this Hen-Egg_Problem is solved: Systemd needs a socket to 
operate, but to provide the infrastructure, systemd would need the socket do do 
Or expressed in other words: How can systemd create /run when it needs /run to 
The corresponding question would be for shutdown: How will systemd unmount 
/run? OK, if ist a ramdisk, it's not really needed.

Another related question is that of shutdown in general:
For startup the semantics of Before= and After= are clear, but isn't it just 
reverted for shutdown? That is if "M" has "After=X" and "Before=Y", does that 
imply that Y is stopped before M will be stzopped, and M will be stopped before 
X is?

From the experience how fast shutdown happens, I don't think it's like that.


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