I do not know many cases of dedicated cycleways without a nearby path or road in Germany.
On a break down you should get you vehicle out of the way which means you are allowed to push/carry your bicycle to the next path. Similar even counts for motorcars which you are allowed to push to a some parking place on the road. All along the rules in NL and DE are pretty the same except for pedestrians on dedicated cycleways. fly Am 11.10.2013 14:30, schrieb Frank Little: > That depends where you are located, Mike. The rules in Germany, for > example, are different from the Netherlands. > Martin's statement is not necessarily true in the Netherlands (and > perhaps that is where the confusion begins). > > In the Netherlands, the law states: > pedestrians use the sidewalk; if there is none, they use the cycleway; > if there is none, they use the (side of the) road. > Cycleways in the Netherlands are not signed separately for pedestrian use. > > There are three categories of cycleway, one only for bicycles, one for > bicycles and lightest category of mopeds (OSM: mofa), one where the > other category of mopeds is also allowed. > All three have a different sign. (The bicycle | pedestrians signs are > not used at all.) > It is not compulsory to use the first kind, the other two are compulsory > (you are not allowed to cycle on the adjacent road). > Whether you have to use the road instead of the cycleway with a heavy > class moped depends on the signs. > In general, the heavier class moped in the Netherlands must use the road > in the built-up area, but not always. > > The general traffic regulations say that if you push your bicycle, you > follow the traffic rules for pedestrians. > This also applies to mopeds (both classes) and motorbikes: if you push > it, you follow the rules for pedestrians. > You do not become a pedestrian: your moped / motorbike needs a license > plate and road insurance. > And you need an appropriate driving license (for a moped/motorbike), > although you do not need to wear your helmet. > > If your bike breaks down and you push it and there is no sidewalk, you > behave as if you were a pedestrian and stay on the cycleway. > In the Netherlands. > (Other countries may have different rules.) > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike N" <nice...@att.net> > To: <tagging@openstreetmap.org> > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways > > >> On 10/11/2013 7:17 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >>> A normal dedicated cycleway doesn't allow you to push your bicycle >>> because pedestrians aren't allowed there >> >> I'm not familiar with dedicated cycleways - if you have a breakdown >> and can't repair, is it required that you walk to the nearest roadway >> and back home via the roadway instead of the cycleway? _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
