Hi Hans, I think that is part of the problem, you always have to decide if the way is of any use for others, else we could just use a mass edit. Each case needs review and thinking, that's why I am asking for help ;-) As long as you contact the original mapper I see no problem.
Gerd Hans De Kryger wrote > Hey Gerd, > > Thanks for reaching out to me, i have to say I'm a little confused. The > ways you mentioned were a mistake and were suppose to be tagged > (historic,railway etc) i get. But like the example shown here (1) there > seems to be no plausible reason for it? It seems to me that any examples > which are similar to this need to be deleted. The original mapper can > always be contacted beforehand. > > (1) > http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=5987185#map=19/32.97970/-117.05502 > > *Regards,* > > *Hans* > > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:03 AM, GerdP < > gpetermann_muenchen@ > > > wrote: > >> Hi Hans, >> >> Yes, I think I need help, not only from you: >> I've commented many of the changesets which introduced >> new highway=* tags on ways which are rarely used. >> >> I learned that many of them were typos, often >> highway=* should be historic=* or railway=* or >> waterway=*. I think I can manage to cleanup those. >> >> If we decide to change those with tags values like pre_proposed, paper, >> design,not_yet_bla_bla to a note describing the reason why the >> way doesn't yet deserve a highway=proposed tag >> it would be great if the mappers would do that. >> >> I think the best way to do that without being to rude is to >> change the highway tag to a note AND add a specific comment >> to the corresponding changeset which introduced the tag, something >> like "please review way 1234567, I've changed the rarely used tag >> highway=xyz to a note. See also > <link to this discussion> > . >> >> I did that a few times now without any complains from the mappers, >> so I hope that's okay. >> >> Gerd >> >> Hans De Kryger wrote >> > Let me know if you need any help. >> > >> > *Regards,* >> > >> > *Hans* >> > >> > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >> > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Gerd Petermann < >> >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ >> >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Hans, >> >> >> >> >> >> that was my thought as well. I assume I have to check all the >> suspicious >> >> entries that >> >> >> >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/highway#values >> >> >> >> >> >> shows. The data is a bit out-aged now (2015-10-14 23:58 UTC) >> >> >> >> as I am constantly cleaning up but I think 842 different highway=* >> tags >> >> >> >> are far too many, both for consumers and for newbies. >> >> >> >> >> >> Gerd >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < >> >> > hans.dekryger13@ >> >> > > >> >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 08:13 >> >> *An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools >> >> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't >> exist? >> >> >> >> Thanks for the examples, i definitely disagree with both examples. >> Makes >> >> no sense to have those at all to me. In my opinion they need to be >> >> reverted/deleted. >> >> >> >> *Regards,* >> >> >> >> *Hans* >> >> >> >> *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> OpenStreetMap >> | >> >> TheDutchMan13 OpenStreetMap is the free wiki world map. ... "Changing >> the >> >> world one edit at a time" In love with OpenStreetMap! I mostly map >> within >> >> the borders of Arizona. Weitere Informationen... >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> * >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Gerd Petermann < >> >> >> >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Oops, forgot to set the list on cc >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------ >> >>> *Von:* Gerd Petermann >> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 07:21 >> >>> *An:* Hans De Kryger >> >>> *Betreff:* AW: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Example: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185 >> >>> >> >>> which is just the first best from 130 "highway=unbuilt" ways, >> >>> >> >>> Its history shows that it was imported in 2007. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Just a few m south is another one: >> >>> >> >>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291> >> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291 >> >>> >> >>> which doesn't have a long history but seems to be >> >>> >> >>> exactly like it. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Gerd >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------ >> >>> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < >> >> > hans.dekryger13@ >> >> > > >> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 01:09 >> >>> *An:* OpenStreetMap >> >>> *Cc:* Gerd Petermann >> >>> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Do you have any examples? >> >>> On Oct 15, 2015 12:27 PM, "Mateusz Konieczny" < >> >> > matkoniecz@ >> >> > > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 +0000 >> >>>> Gerd Petermann < >> >> > gpetermann_muenchen@ >> >> > > wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> > Hi all, >> >>>> > >> >>>> > forgive me if this was discussed before: >> >>>> > There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist. >> >>>> > I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / >> highway=planned >> >>>> > as this might be used to visualize a plan, I can also understand >> that >> >>>> > we have tags like highway=dismantled and highway=razed (which seem >> to >> >>>> > mean the same) but why do we have ways with >> >>>> > highway=x-residential , highway=unbuilt , highway=neverbuilt, and >> >>>> > several more with similar meaning ? >> >>>> > They all seem to describe ways which where once added as normal >> >>>> > highway=* to the database and later someone found out that there >> is >> >>>> > no highway, but did not dare to remove the way. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Is that meant to document something important? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Gerd >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> Purpose of such objects is to ensure that armchair mappers will not >> >>>> remap it again. Object with note=* seem better than >> highway=neverbuilt. >> >>>> >> >>>> In case of low risk of remapping by armachair mappers such ways may >> be >> >>>> safely deleted. >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Tagging mailing list >> >>>> >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Tagging mailing list >> >>> >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Tagging mailing list >> >> >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tagging mailing list >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857819.html >> Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> > Tagging@ >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@ > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857821.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
