Thanks for getting back to me, if you have a list of them shoot it my way. I'll start working on them.
*Regards,* *Hans* *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:55 AM, GerdP <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Hans, > > I think that is part of the problem, you always have to decide if the > way is of any use for others, else we could just use a mass edit. > Each case needs review and thinking, that's why I am asking for help ;-) > As long as you contact the original mapper I see no problem. > > Gerd > > > Hans De Kryger wrote > > Hey Gerd, > > > > Thanks for reaching out to me, i have to say I'm a little confused. The > > ways you mentioned were a mistake and were suppose to be tagged > > (historic,railway etc) i get. But like the example shown here (1) there > > seems to be no plausible reason for it? It seems to me that any examples > > which are similar to this need to be deleted. The original mapper can > > always be contacted beforehand. > > > > (1) > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=5987185#map=19/32.97970/-117.05502 > > > > *Regards,* > > > > *Hans* > > > > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 > > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:03 AM, GerdP < > > > gpetermann_muenchen@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Hans, > >> > >> Yes, I think I need help, not only from you: > >> I've commented many of the changesets which introduced > >> new highway=* tags on ways which are rarely used. > >> > >> I learned that many of them were typos, often > >> highway=* should be historic=* or railway=* or > >> waterway=*. I think I can manage to cleanup those. > >> > >> If we decide to change those with tags values like pre_proposed, paper, > >> design,not_yet_bla_bla to a note describing the reason why the > >> way doesn't yet deserve a highway=proposed tag > >> it would be great if the mappers would do that. > >> > >> I think the best way to do that without being to rude is to > >> change the highway tag to a note AND add a specific comment > >> to the corresponding changeset which introduced the tag, something > >> like "please review way 1234567, I've changed the rarely used tag > >> highway=xyz to a note. See also > > <link to this discussion> > > . > >> > >> I did that a few times now without any complains from the mappers, > >> so I hope that's okay. > >> > >> Gerd > >> > >> Hans De Kryger wrote > >> > Let me know if you need any help. > >> > > >> > *Regards,* > >> > > >> > *Hans* > >> > > >> > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 > >> > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* > >> > > >> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Gerd Petermann < > >> > >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ > >> > >> >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Hans, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> that was my thought as well. I assume I have to check all the > >> suspicious > >> >> entries that > >> >> > >> >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/highway#values > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> shows. The data is a bit out-aged now (2015-10-14 23:58 UTC) > >> >> > >> >> as I am constantly cleaning up but I think 842 different highway=* > >> tags > >> >> > >> >> are far too many, both for consumers and for newbies. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Gerd > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------ > >> >> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < > >> > >> > hans.dekryger13@ > >> > >> > > > >> >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 08:13 > >> >> *An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > >> >> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't > >> exist? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for the examples, i definitely disagree with both examples. > >> Makes > >> >> no sense to have those at all to me. In my opinion they need to be > >> >> reverted/deleted. > >> >> > >> >> *Regards,* > >> >> > >> >> *Hans* > >> >> > >> >> *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 > >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> > >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> OpenStreetMap > >> | > >> >> TheDutchMan13 OpenStreetMap is the free wiki world map. ... "Changing > >> the > >> >> world one edit at a time" In love with OpenStreetMap! I mostly map > >> within > >> >> the borders of Arizona. Weitere Informationen... > >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> * > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Gerd Petermann < > >> >> > >> > >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ > >> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> Oops, forgot to set the list on cc > >> >>> > >> >>> ------------------------------ > >> >>> *Von:* Gerd Petermann > >> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 07:21 > >> >>> *An:* Hans De Kryger > >> >>> *Betreff:* AW: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Example: > >> >>> > >> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185 > >> >>> > >> >>> which is just the first best from 130 "highway=unbuilt" ways, > >> >>> > >> >>> Its history shows that it was imported in 2007. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Just a few m south is another one: > >> >>> > >> >>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291> > >> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291 > >> >>> > >> >>> which doesn't have a long history but seems to be > >> >>> > >> >>> exactly like it. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Gerd > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ------------------------------ > >> >>> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < > >> > >> > hans.dekryger13@ > >> > >> > > > >> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 01:09 > >> >>> *An:* OpenStreetMap > >> >>> *Cc:* Gerd Petermann > >> >>> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Do you have any examples? > >> >>> On Oct 15, 2015 12:27 PM, "Mateusz Konieczny" < > >> > >> > matkoniecz@ > >> > >> > > > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 +0000 > >> >>>> Gerd Petermann < > >> > >> > gpetermann_muenchen@ > >> > >> > > wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Hi all, > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > forgive me if this was discussed before: > >> >>>> > There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist. > >> >>>> > I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / > >> highway=planned > >> >>>> > as this might be used to visualize a plan, I can also understand > >> that > >> >>>> > we have tags like highway=dismantled and highway=razed (which > seem > >> to > >> >>>> > mean the same) but why do we have ways with > >> >>>> > highway=x-residential , highway=unbuilt , highway=neverbuilt, > and > >> >>>> > several more with similar meaning ? > >> >>>> > They all seem to describe ways which where once added as normal > >> >>>> > highway=* to the database and later someone found out that there > >> is > >> >>>> > no highway, but did not dare to remove the way. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Is that meant to document something important? > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Gerd > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Purpose of such objects is to ensure that armchair mappers will not > >> >>>> remap it again. Object with note=* seem better than > >> highway=neverbuilt. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> In case of low risk of remapping by armachair mappers such ways may > >> be > >> >>>> safely deleted. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> Tagging mailing list > >> >>>> > >> > >> > Tagging@ > >> > >> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Tagging mailing list > >> >>> > >> > >> > Tagging@ > >> > >> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Tagging mailing list > >> >> > >> > >> > Tagging@ > >> > >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Tagging mailing list > >> > >> > Tagging@ > >> > >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857819.html > >> Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> > > > Tagging@ > > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > > Tagging@ > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857821.html > Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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