2015-11-02 10:26 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com>:

> In the U.S., as in Germany I gather from Gerd's comment, you would be
> ticketed and fined heavily for that sort of behavior.



it depends. One of the very few things western Germany took from the
eastern German inventions after the reunification was the "green arrow", a
sign that let's you pass the red light if you turn right and there are no
pedestrians (and not crossing traffic).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Gr%C3%BCner_Pfeil.jpg
http://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/storage/pic/mdhl/artikelbilder/lokales/rn/dolo/do-luedo/1468315_1_grner_pfeil_dpa.jpg?version=1386810308

Germans are typically very disciplined towards rules anyway, (almost)
nobody will cross a red light on purpose, not even at 3 a.m. with noone
around and in the middle of nowhere.

Cheers,
Martin
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