On 07/03/17 20:58, Thilo Haug wrote:
.......
I'm not really sure about which issue you talk in the 2nd part of your
message "not actual rules",
do you refer to my entry in the proposal about a "code of conduct" ?
.......
Thilo, what I was suggesting is that you need to receive the list
messages, read them, understand the ideas behind them. That cannot
happen if you try to block all messages other than your own topic (or
unsubscribe). Or think of them as spam.
"own data, as an overlay" doesn't make sense to me in this case,
OK, then thats not a suitable solution for you.
Didn't understand what you mean with "digest approach" ?
I thought you mentioned getting the list communications via digest
instead of directly receiving what you call spam. If not, sorry for the
distraction.
David
Cheers,
Thilo
Am 07.03.2017 um 04:15 schrieb David Bannon:
On 07/03/17 04:55, Thilo Haug wrote:
......
I (accidentally) unsubscribed because of the "spam" coming in,
means I didn't get just messages regarding the topic.
Thilo, perhaps thats the underlying problem here ? You read the
rules on the wiki, complied with what you understood and now, I guess
feel as if you are being treated a bit unfairly ? However, I doubt
that any proposal has succeeded where the proposer has not been a
member of this list, been actively reading the messages at least and
probably been contributing as well.
The truth is that not all the "rules" are on the wiki, there is a
huge quantity of community knowledge, not actual rules, and much of
it is accessible via this list. We have a large number of very
experienced database, rendering, mapping, cultural experts who live
here (no, I'm not one!). They comment on a proposal and help a
proposal comply with the OSM culture. Their "rules" are not written
down as the document would run to 100's pages and we'd never agree on
the content. Written rules have to cover every possible situation.
Too hard.
This list is very welcoming, always open to new ideas and not, in any
way, locked into particular policies. Within the list you will find
widely differing views but always respect for others.
To solve your problem Thilo, you could do a number of things.
Firstly, tags in OSM do not need be approved. I, personally don't
recommend unapproved tags but lots will disagree with me.
Alternatively, its relatively easy to put your own data, as an
overlay, onto an OSM map. Keep you data privately or put it into one
of the public POI databases. But really, I strongly recommend you
keep trying as you are, refine and improve your proposal with the
help of the mailing list, understand why OSM "rules" are what they
are. You can then make a good tag, one that can be used around the
world and rendered on lots of maps.
By the way, I would not recommend the digest approach, I found it
harder to assign time to. Digest users, when replying, often seem to
forget to change the message title and are not always taken seriously :-)
David
Am 06.03.2017 um 18:09 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2017-03-06 17:46 GMT+01:00 Michael Reichert <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hi Martin and others,
Am 2017-03-06 um 17:37 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
> yes, that wording is unfortunate, because in most/many OSM
mailing lists
> messages never get approved. I am myself admin of a very
small regional ML
> and from time to time there are periods where a lot of spam
arrives, I can
> imagine checking held back messages in the big lists would be
a lot of work
> (and mostly consist in rejecting spam). You would also have
to do it daily,
> because after some time many messages will seem out of context.
I have changed the wording of the wiki page Proposal_Process
today to
stress the necessity to subscribe the Tagging mailing list.
Feel free to
modify/revert it if you don't like it.
As you name me in person: I was not referring to the wording in the
wiki but the wording of the mailing list autoresponder message in
case someone not subscribed sends a message (and from the reply
might get to the impression that it will pass, which it in fact
almost never does for any of the OSM lists).
Cheers,
Martin
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