Greetings, If those zones are not entire areas then I agree - don't use areas. If it is on a street-by-street basis we have no choice but to track individual streets. How about an empty relation? ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Empty_relations) This would group the tags in one place, leaving just a few tags per street.
Happy mapping! Matej On 14 January 2018 at 11:51, Stefan Nagy <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Am 14.01.2018 11:02 schrieb pbnoxious: > >> On 2018-01-13 22:06, Matej Lieskovský wrote: >> >>> I have a similar problem with the tagging of "Zone 30" and other such >>> restrictions. >>> >>> I understand that having the tag on every road makes it easier for >>> consumers. I think that when a restriction is conceptually an area, it >>> should be marked as an area because we should be making use of >>> the fact that we have a geospatial database. >>> A relationship feels a little like having the disadvantages of both >>> approaches - you need to keep track of all road segments, but it is >>> worse for consumers. >>> >> >> I'd like to disagree on the "Zone 30" being an actual area: Here the >> appropriate administration does usually not set a full area (with all >> houses, parks etc.) as restricted but rather the individual connected >> streets, which means that in my mind a relation would be the approach >> that resembles the nature of these restrictions the most. But as you >> already noticed: the relation does not really make things easier, so I >> would rather stick to tagging the individual roads. >> > > The problem with short-term parking zones is that the conditions are > much more complicated than in 30 km/h zones… For example from x pm > to y am parking is free for everyone. From y am to x pm it's only free for > residents (they get a special sticker for their car), everyone else has to > pay a fee of z euros and they are only allowed to park for max. 2 hours. > > Now tag nearly every street in a district with this information – and when > you're done the city decides to change the rules for it's short-term > parking zones… > > That's why I'd like to use implicit values or relations. I don't want to > use > areas because, as you say, "the appropriate administration does usually > not set a full area (with all houses, parks etc.) as restricted but rather > the > individual connected streets" – and the rules don't apply to all streets in > these areas. > > Cheers, > Stefan. > > > -- > E-Mails signieren & verschlüsseln · https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/de/ > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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