I see that the suggestions about "free refills" are included here because there was some confusion about the use of "free_refill=yes" in central Europe. The English word "refill" implies that it is the second time something has been filled. Thus a customer may request that their glass be filled again with the same beverage.
I'd suggest a separate proposal page to discuss the free_refill=yes tag. In North America, free beverage refills are limited to "soft drinks" (aka fizzy drinks / pop / soda / cola depending on dialect), tea and brewed coffee. Alcoholic beverages, espresso and specialty coffee drinks, and other specialty beverage are usually excluded. I don't recall every seeing free refills of lemonade or fruit juice. So it would be sufficient to have free_refill=coffee/tea/soft_drink/yes/no free_refill=yes would imply that all customers can get free refills on coffee, tea and soft drinks, if all are offered. Or at a cafe that only serves coffee and tea, free_refill=yes would mean free refills on coffee and tea (since soft drinks are not available) Some places only offer refills for free on one category. For example, a cafe or "diner" may only offer free refills of brewed coffee, while a fast food restaurant often offers free refills of "soft drinks" but not coffee. In this case the specific free_refill=coffee or free_refill=soft_drink would be used. I don't think it is necessary to use a more complicated namespaced tag, such as free_refill:coffee=yes, though that could be an alternative. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:00 AM Joseph Eisenberg < [email protected]> wrote: > I’d suggest keeping it simple by using existing tags when possible. > > If a cafe or shop gives out free water for customers, tag the shop or cafe > with “drinking_water=customers”. If it’s for anyone, “drinking_water=yes” > is currently used. I don’t see a need for a new tag “drinking_water=ask” > > If there is a drinking fountain, water tap or bottle refill station in a > shopping mall or building that has opening_hours, just use > amenity=drinking_water plus opening_hours=* on the node. Man_made=water_tap > or =drinking_fountain or =water_well can also be added to the same node for > more detail. > > I believe amenity=drinking_water implies no fee, and public access, so > these characteristics do not require explicit tagging > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 8:57 PM bkil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'd like to discuss three related proposals and two separate ones that >> can be confused with the others. In all the below cases, the >> availability is tied to the opening_hours of the containing POI. >> >> Five separate proposals could have been created, but I feel that the >> concepts and words describe these are so close, it is best to have a >> good overview. >> >> I'm open to suggestions both related to the tags themselves and how we >> should structure and document this proposal in the wiki. >> >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_drinking_water_by_private_entities >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >
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