On 16/10/18 18:47, François Lacombe wrote:
Le mar. 16 oct. 2018 à 00:20, Greg Troxel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :

    So I don't see how we can make "insulated" a big deal in tagging,
    defining the top-level tag, rather than being a detail to add when
    known.


For me a single 'line' is one conductor, where as a cable will be more than one conductor. Usually the difference can be seen at the ends - where a cable is split into the separate conductors.
High voltage things tend to be lines, cheaper I guess.


I agree with both of you Greg and Marc
Nevertheless, this was a debate in 2013 and I was in favor to merge line, cable and minor_line
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_transmission_refinement#power.3Dminor_line_and_power.3Dminor_cable_replacement

Due to power=cable and power=line usage in OSM, many contributors didn't want to mass retag power=cable.
Then we all agreed on line/cable distinction in late 2014 or 2015.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_paths_refinement#Integrated_power.3Dcable

Note that insulation is also a draft proposal
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Insulation_proposal

I'm still opposed to minor_line since in merge several different concept in one value, and is only useful for rendering.

    That said, I fully support your notion of tagging voltage, so that
    low-voltage lines can be rendered only at extreme zooms, and to
    assume a
    line is low voltage (240V seems like a reasonable default
    assumption in
    terms of controlling rendering) if not tagged.


Great, should we open an issue on carto github to propose to lower the rendering of cables without voltage?

Make a default value of 240 v for lines that have no voltage tag?
That would work and motivate some to add the voltage tag.

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