The correct value for WIFI access is "internet_access=wlan" - this is
distinct from cellular internet or a wired connection
("internat_access=wired"). See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:internet_access" there are global tags that don't need to be applied to each individual camp_pitch. And that each camp_pitch within that camp_site should only have the tag if it differs from the global value" Sure. I was trying to mention something about that at the proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Campsite_properties On 9/9/19, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 20:24, Rob Savoye <r...@senecass.com> wrote: > >> On 9/8/19 1:09 PM, Paul Allen wrote: >> >> > Also, cellular connectivity changes as operators add towers or >> > reconfigure existing ones. There's also the consideration of whether >> > there's 2G, 3G, 4G or 5G. Probably best left to one of the >> > dedicated cellular mapping apps such as cellmapper because that info >> > is a little more likely to be updated more frequently. >> >> Ah, hadn't thought of that. I'm not hung up on using this tag, I was >> just trying to make a complete list... but a different database might be >> better maintained. >> > > Maybe, maybe not. There are two or three different ones (at least). I > like cellmapper > because there's an option to use OSM as the basemap (actually, it's about > the only > option after they dropped Google maps) so I can get some cellular data > while > surveying then later (can be up to a couple of weeks when their servers are > overloaded) see where I've been. Could be useful for some mapping > footpaths > through woods, but I think you can run something like GPSlogger at the same > time. > > The other thing with cellmapper is it calculates where towers are but gives > you > the option to relocate them if you identify the tower visually. I can not > only > relocate the tower in cellmapper, I can tag the tower on OSM too and have > them > coincide. > > Oh, and something like cellmapper displays signal strengths on the map > rather than > hiding them away in a tag where you have to use the query tool to find out > if a camp pitch > has a signal. > >> In the UK if a campground stated they offer WiFi and some pitches didn't >> > get it there would be complaints. Grounds for prosecution about >> misleading >> > advertising, even. >> >> Interesting. That isn't the case in the western US, or other countries >> I've been in. Some even tell you were to stay if you want better >> connectivity from your camp. > > > The websites of UK campgrounds I've looked at say WiFi with nothing about > spotty > coverage. Anybody who booked a pitch on the basis of that and then found > their > pitch didn't have coverage would be very upset. And be able to make a > legitimate > complaint to Trading Standards. > > Often the only wifi router is in the main office/lodge, so it's pretty easy >> be out of range. >> > > In which case they're doing things on the cheap. Especially if some of the > pitches > have power. WiFi relays are dirt cheap these days. More expensive is a > weatherproof, > non-metallic enclosure to stop them getting soaked or stolen without > blocking the > signal. > > Note the entire purpose of camping should not be making sure you have >> a data connection. :-) > > > If you have kids, WiFi is probably essential. Especially around here, > where it's often > raining. If you're a FarceBook addict, WiFi is definitely essential. > > -- > Paul > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
