On 19/09/19 18:49, Volker Schmidt wrote:
we may have to byte the bullet and allow semicolon-separated values
for landuse. Specific word combinations are not a good solution
OSM uses landuse=residential as a broad brush that includes recreation
and commercial uses. It includes various densities of population.
Why not landuse=agriculture? As a broad brush it could do well. Could
includes all types of agriculture practice.
If the output of the area is required then the key produce could be used ..
So far I know of
meadow + fruit trees
bovine pasture + aok trees
grain + olive trees
grain + Almond
pigs + trees
I am sure there are many more.
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On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 09:43, Martin Koppenhoefer
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Am Do., 19. Sept. 2019 um 09:18 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 00:33, Martin Koppenhoefer
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree the term silvopasture is not a synonym for meadow
orchards. A meadow orchard is specifically low
density/sparse trees, while silvopasture indicates a
forest/woodland, i.e. denser tree cover.
Really? I don't see anything in the Wikipedia article that
specifies the tree cover is dense.
I didn't write it was "dense", I wrote it was "denser", compared
to a meadow orchard.
In
fact, it says: "Integrating pasture into existing woodland
presents challenges as well: the woodland
likely needs to be thinned to increase light infiltration" It
also has pictures of several different
silvopastures, none of which appear to have dense tree cover
throughout.
it is using the term "woodland". For meadow orchards, I would use
the term "meadow" with trees on it. The term "silvo" also is about
a "forest"/woods. Can you see the difference?
Also the meadow in meadow orchard can be used for either
pasture or cutting the grass, while silvopasture implies
pasture.
The trees scattered throughout would make it more economic to
put animals out to pasture on
it than to mow it. But maybe where you are people do things
the least efficient way. Even if
that is the case, I doubt that would remain viable for much
longer.
BTW, we're probably fooling ourselves in many cases where we
say a field is pasture or
meadow: it may change from year to year.
places in southern Germany used for pasture are often in
environments where (mechanically) cutting the grass is not
feasible, due to steep terrain, or where mowing does not make a
lot of sense because the soil is quite magre.
My point was that "silvopasture" has different connotations, it is
about (some kind of) forest with animals grazing below, while
meadow orchards is about meadows with sparse (fruit) trees on them
(or sparse orchards on a meadow, if you like to put it the other
way round). Silvopasture requires pasture, meadow orchards don't.
Cheers,
Martin
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