Hi Lionel,
On 17/01/20 10:52, Lionel Giard wrote:
Alesandro,
The thing is that disabled=designated is an access (so regulated by
law), and would depend because each country's law vary (not every
country enforce restriction for disabled parking or other type of
vehicle...). Thus, it may be wrong to tag an access when it doesn't exist.
If the parking_space with specific symbology is regulated by law and
only accessible by disabled persons (like in Italy), I think the tag
disabled=designated express exactly that, and should be used.
If a parking space is not limited to disabled persons, what is the
purpose to add a capacity:disabled=1? Maybe I'm missing your point...
Could you please share and example where a parking space should have a
capacity:disabled=1 but is not access-regulated?
Ale
While a tag that's only an attribute describing what type of parking
exist, is unambiguous. It may be parking_space=* or access:*=* , both
are "good" for that as they are unambiguous in their meaning. The only
advantage of the second is that it is already used for amenity=parking
and seems coherent to use for the parking_space in my opinion (even if
it is only 1 place). The wiki page already mention all the different
type because there are many other than disabled (like parent, women,
electric charging,...) : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:capacity
marc,
The capacity:*=* tag should not be used alone (as described for any
parking), it is an addition to the capacity=* tag. For example, a
place marked as "capacity=1" and "capacity:disabled=1" means that the
1 capacity is disabled. A better example is for an amenity=parking,
you have a parking with "capacity=12" and "capacity:disabled=3" it
means 3 of the 12 parking space are disabled.
Theoretically, all parking_space should be capacity=1 (and if
necessary capacity:*=*) but the advantage (as mentioned above) is that
it would use the same tagging than for amenity=parking. Thus we
wouldn't use two different scheme for the same thing.
Le ven. 17 janv. 2020 à 09:52, PanierAvide <panierav...@riseup.net
<mailto:panierav...@riseup.net>> a écrit :
Hello Lionel,
I totally agree with that, I never understood this special
treatment of amenity=parking_space, and so I'm using capacity:*=*
with that. My use case is for disabled people parking spaces :
just look for capacity:disabled=* and you're good to go, whatever
it is a parking or parking_space.
Best regards,
Adrien P.
Le 17/01/2020 à 09:36, Lionel Giard a écrit :
Hello everyone,
I saw that on the parking_space wiki page it says that we
shouldn't use capacity:*=* on parking_space, and instead use the
access tag. But why is this the case? It seems logical to use
capacity:disabled=* on a parking_space for disabled people or
capacity:charging=* on a parking_space for electric vehicles that
are charging. And there is not always legal access linked to
these "special" parking spaces (e.g. I don't think there are many
places regulating parking on parents' parking spaces in the law).
It seems strange to forbid this, while promoting the tagging of
"capacity=*". ^_^
I therefore propose to change this description to favour this
tagging (when useful) instead of prohibiting it. What do you
think about this?
Kind Regards,
Lionel
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