I see no good reason to count explicit "abstain but have comments" exactly like "vote against".
Feb 5, 2020, 14:58 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com: > Well, if we count all of those, it is 68% (13/19) which is less than > the 74% cut-off. > > I don't think this should be considered "approved". There were several > comments that "free box" or something else that is more common in > British English should be considered instead. > > More important than the number of votes is whether signficant problems > and objections have been addressed. In this case, the concern is that > "give box" is quite rare in Britain and other native English-speaking > countries, and is not unambiguous. > > - Joseph Eisenberg > > On 2/5/20, Markus Peloso <mar....@outlook.com> wrote: > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dgive_box >> >> A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in >> the sense of free sharing and reuse. >> >> Hi >> >> Thanks for voting and for the inputs. Based on the result «13 votes for, 1 >> vote against and 5 abstentions» I set the status to approved :D. >> >> Best regards, >> Markus >> >> Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar....@outlook.com> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 09:42 >> An: Tag discussion, strategy and related >> tools<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org> >> Betreff: Feature Proposal - Voting - give box >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box >> >> A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in >> the sense of free sharing. >> >> Hi >> >> Thanks for the discussion, inputs and improvement to this tag. >> >> I request for voting now. >> >> Feel free to give also a negative answer if you only don’t like the name. >> Then please write in the comments what name you prefer. Based on the result >> I will made a second vote with a new name. Other suggested names are: >> • amenity=free_box >> • amenity=free_goods >> • amenity=give_take_box >> • shop=freeshop >> >> Best regards, >> Markus >> >> Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar....@outlook.com> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020 21:26 >> An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org> >> Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - give box >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box >> >> A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in >> the sense of free sharing. >> >> Hi >> >> Thank you for your inputs to improve this documentation and make it easy to >> understand what this tag is all about. I have removed all references and >> notes to give away shops, because those are not helpful for a clear >> specification of this tag. >> >> Thanks for the hint with the hiker boxes and the other type of boxes. Good >> to see that there are similar projects all over the world. I have included a >> section with suggestions on how this boxtypes could be handled with existing >> tags (the goods tag is already taken). I want this tag to be more specific >> then the reuse tag. I do not want to cover all existing variations with it. >> IMO someone like food boxes for example deserve their own tag. >> >> Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar....@outlook.com> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2020 13:04 >> An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org> >> Betreff: AW: Feature Proposal - RFC - give box >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box >> >> A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the >> sense of free sharing. >> >> Many thanks for your helpful Feedback and your support. :D >> >> I have updated the proposed. >> >> I like the idea of using the shop=charity icon. Maybe the icon could be a >> combination of the shop=charity icon and the shop=gift icon. >> >> I change the tag name to give_box. >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box >> Because the name Givebox is used by a website that provides fundraising >> tools. >> >> The naming was the difficult part. Why am I for give_box: >> >> + Give box is already a known concept in Europa with a big community. >> + I think "gift box" would be a very good name to describes the idea of this >> facility. As a self organized solidarity space of free giving/donating and >> free taking/reusing. The name "Give box" is similar. >> + Give box is not overused for other things found in the internet, eg. >> internet modems. >> >> "reuse" is to generic, eg. someone can tag a fridge with amenity=reuse and >> reuse=fridge, to document a place to share food. But I think this kind of >> facility deserves its own tag. >> I think the tag "reuse" is currently only used because there is no other tag >> for this kind of facility. >> >> Give boxes are some kind of public storage room/space in the sense of giving >> and reuse. I think the "free store" (German "Umsonstladen") in Germany is >> more a give box as a store. As I read, even the shelf's in the "free store" >> ("Umsonstladen") are brought by the community, that's more something like a >> public storage room. In a store I would except employees who eg. place the >> items on the shelves. That's way a give box is not a shop=charity or >> shop=second_hand. The idea and organization behind a "free store" (German >> "Umsonstladen") and "Give box" are the same, they differ only in the storage >> space size. A shack can also be named as a store. This makes a clear >> distinction difficult. As abstraction for OSM, I think we can use the same >> tag. >> >> free_box would be my second choice. I would like to solve it democratically. >> In two weeks I would like to vote on give_box. If you prefer free_box then >> vote against it and write it in the comment of the vote. Then I change it >> and do a second vote for free_box. >> >> Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar....@outlook.com> >> Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2020 23:41 >> An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org> >> Betreff: Feature Proposal - RFC - Givebox >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Givebox >> >> A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the >> sense of free sharing. >> >> Hi >> >> Based on the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse and >> the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase tag I >> describe a tag for facilities similar to public bookcases but with all kinds >> of (none food) goods. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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