Nodes with roles in the route relation deserve another proposal to make it "official". The CAI-project sounds promising, I will look into it once this business is done! My wife is learning Italian, so maybe she can even translate the text (into Dutch, for our post-corona hiking and biking season?) :) For the moment, I think it has no impact on this proposal.
I know that from a routing perspective, membership of the route relation (any route relation for the transport mode) counts the most. Hikers tend to have a different point of view, where the predefined named route and its variants are more important. But again, that's a different discussion. Best, Peter Elderson Op do 21 mei 2020 om 17:50 schreef Volker Schmidt <vosc...@gmail.com>: > > > > Critically those things say there is a trail here, but don't say where the >> trail goes as part of a route, so in that case without knowing the exact >> route, I don't see how it can be marked out as a recreational route. >> >> A series of trail blazes or way marks tells me that I most likely on a > trail that someone has marked as a hiking trail. If I persist and follow > the trail, finding more and more of these blazes I will, in most case > encounter a signpost or guidepost that tells me more about the trail > (name, ref, destination, ...) > This leads me to what I really wanted to say: > Trail route relations (and cycling route relations) could or should (?) > include the guideposts, and for that purpose we need a role for these > nodes: role=guidepost > The only mention in the wiki is this one: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Wandern#In_die_Relation_aufnehmen > > In Italy the Club Alpino Italiano has recently started a collaboration > with the OSM community (under the "roof" of the Italian Wikimedia > association) that aims at transferring the 50k km trail network of the Club > into OSM. Part of this is the use of hiking relations and the guideposts > will be inserted in the hiking route relations. Details are documented on > the wiki page CAI <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CAI> (in Italian). > > The new roles in the proposal do not bother me too much. I am not against > them, but I do not see any great benefit in having them. As an end.user, I > regularly plan (cycling) tours using various route planning tools (who > typically give preference to cycling routes), but in that context it does > not matter what role a particular part of relation has, the only important > thing is whether a way is part of a route or not. > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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