On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 01:18, Tod Fitch <t...@fitchfamily.org> wrote:
> > > > On May 30, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Rob Savoye <r...@senecass.com> wrote: > > > >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 15:46:31 +0200 > >> From: Daniel Westergren <wes...@gmail.com> > > > >> *An additional issue:* > >> 6. sac_scale is currently the only tag (possibly together with > mtb:scale) > >> to denote the difficulty of a hiking trail (that is, the way, not the > >> route). But it's very geared towards alpine trails and there is not > enough > >> nuance in the lowest levels. > > > > As a climber, I don't think we'd want to apply YDS to hiking trails. > > To me, YDS should only used for technical routes requiring equipment > > (usually). > > As a Sierra Club member in Southern California (where the YDS originated > long before my time), a hiker and a former climber I must mention that 1, > 2, 3, and 4 on the YDS are basically levels of difficulty in hiking. > Climbers really only work with 5 and its various subdivisions. Ruling out > the whole scale simply because one level of it is dedicated to climbing is > a bit much. > > OTOH, the Australians have a bush walking scale that does not, from what > I’ve seen, include levels for climbing so that might be choice that does > not automatically connote a different outdoor activity. > So would we try & combine a walking scale & a climbing / alpine scale into one, or have two scales? Two would probably make a lot more sense, with "Walking / Hiking" 1 - 5, then sac starting at about 4/5. Something else that I've just thought about & not sure whether it would need to be mentioned - possibility of encountering dangerous wildlife? Yes, there are 1000 things in the Australian bush that'll kill you :-), but none of them will actually eat you! (not even Drop Bears! https://australianmuseum.net.au/learn/animals/mammals/drop-bear/ :-)) Same applies to (virtually?) all of Western Europe, but how about North America, Africa, Asia & so on? Do we have / need a way of tagging that bears (or whatever) may be encountered while walking in this area? Thanks Graeme
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