On 02/06/2020 13:48, Volker Schmidt wrote:


On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 09:04, Daniel Westergren <wes...@gmail.com <mailto:wes...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        I think the reason that this is so messed up because of the
        desire to tag according to function.   A trail/path can have
        many users/functions, but it's still a dirt path.


    Right. But is there another way? Can we tag dirt paths/wilderness
    paths/forest paths/mountain paths with another main tag?

No you cannot inroduce another main tag, because of the existing stock of "path" 8.7 million and "track".(18.7 million). This would only add additional confusion with mappers and an enormous burden on renderers and routers

    Can we somehow "enforce" additional tags for physical
    characteristics that will tell what this path|footway|cycleway
    actually looks like?

We have no way to "enforce" anything in OSM. But, as we do have the necessary tags (maybe to many different ones, but they all are in use.and we need to reamin backaward compatible in view of the enourmous numbers). What we can do and need to do is to improve the description of the various existing tagging options in the wiki (without touching their definition)

To be honest, I'd expect that most OSM contributors (new and old) don't look at the wiki at all.  If you want to influence how people tag things, it'd be more effective to try and ensure that editor presets in the commonly-used editors match whatever the community consensus is (although after 116 messages about this last month on the tagging list, I'm not sure that there is a consensus about even what the problem is).

Best Regards,

Andy




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