Oct 18, 2020, 10:17 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:

> sent from a phone
>> On 16. Oct 2020, at 09:32, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> wrote:
>> generally bicycle=dismount should be used instead, reserving bicycle=no for 
>> those circumstances where even pushing a bike is not legal (e.g. most public 
>> footpaths in England & Wales).
> most bicycle=no tags out there actually mean that you cannot ride a bike, not 
> that you cannot have a bike in your pocket or be pushing a bike or carrying a 
> bike in a box or on your shoulders.
> I would suggest a different tag than bicycle=no for places where you cannot 
> bring a bicycle, because otherwise you will never know which interpretation 
> of bicycle=no was used by the mapper.

At this point bicycle=no means "no cycling allowed" and trying to change meaning
would be quite hopeless.

You would need a special tag to mark which interpretation is used and resurvey 
bicycle=no cases. And at that point it is easier to have a new tag for rare "no 
bicycle at all
in addition to forbidding cycling"

At that point it is easier to simply invent a new tag for "no bicycle pushing".

(bicycle_pushed=no, bicycle_pushing=no and bicycle_possession=no were proposed)
 And I think at every point in OSM history, as bicycle=dismount was a duplicate 
of bicycle=no

> The wiki is unsure about the exact meaning, the bicycle=* page says it is 
> about restrictions for bicycles while the access page (older) says it is 
> about restrictions for cyclists. IMHO the most common interpretation is 
> legality of cycling/riding a bicycle.

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