Hi François,

the combination of electricity:grid=yes with either electricity:origin=* or electricity:grid:origin=* would point to the origin being only about financial flows as advertised on-the-ground.

For the purpose of filtering out amenities, e.g. charging stations, that only use 'green' electricity it is still useful to tag electricity:origin=* or electricity:generator:origin=* in combination with electricity:generator=yes. Alternatively, there would need to be a tagged relation to the specific generator and the end users it supplies which would be considerably harder to query and many OSM editers seem to find relations confusing. Therefore, I think the slight bit of redundancy is useful to explicitly tag this on the amenity. Furthermore, the word 'origin' is used, not only to avoid two tags with very similar meanings that can be easily distinguished by combination with the infrastructure tag, but also since 'electricity:source' would then have a double meaning with 'the survey/map/place where the knowledge of the electricity was obtained', which is apparently a problem for some other tags using source as a keyword.

Cheers,

Lukas
On 14.11.20 17:15, François Lacombe wrote:
Hi Lukas

Le jeu. 12 nov. 2020 à 00:48, Lukas Richert <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :

    electricity:generator:origin
    
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:electricity:generator:origin&action=edit&redlink=1>=solar

I didn't get in details what leads to this association between local supply with a generator and origin and it's not correct.

Origin is only financial/market flows (in association with according communication claiming for environmental benefits). A particular trade to pay for a certain kind of electricity production. When electricity is locally produced, for a given building, it's not about origin, it's only about source. As we already define the source on the generator itself, this would be redundant to explicitly define it on the building as well.

"Origin" is a term that should only be related with grid power supply as everyone consumes the same electricity but can pay for particular origins.

All the best

François

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