Hi Paul,

I'm not quite sure if I correctly understood what you meant, so correct/explain more if I get it wrong! My sole goal with the infrastructure part of the tagging is to specify if a connection exists sometimes, always or never. In the case of solar panels, even though they don't produce electricity at night, they are always connected so the building would then be tagged as 'electricity:generator=yes'.

So far, I've not even attempted to incorporate the method with which the generator is connected to the grid (if there is a connection). If think for that it would be easiest to have a separate tag. Overall, I think I mean to only generally cover all cases, but perhaps with not as much detail as you envision. I think that needs more and different tags to keep things clear.

As to the electric vehicles, I think it would be fine to then tag electricity:battery=yes and then have a separate tag like battery:type=electric_vehicle or some such.

Cheers, Lukas

On 14.11.20 18:43, Paul Allen wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 17:24, Lukas Richert <lrich...@posteo.de <mailto:lrich...@posteo.de>> wrote:

    The possible values for any of these subkeys is then yes/backup/no
    (i.e. electricity:battery=no), where *yes *means the device/grid
    is always connected and it is usually (daily?) used. The term
    *backup* then means that the device is only used when the usual
    device reaches its capacity or fails, so it is not always
    on/connected.


I'm not committing to supporting or opposing this scheme, just bikeshedding.
But it's a BIG bikeshed.

It isn't as simple as your tagging scheme makes out.

A photovoltaic system for a house may charge batteries, which come into
play when there is no sun (it's night or it's too cloudy).  There is no grid
connection at all.

A photovoltaic system for a house may provide electricity when it can,
with the grid providing electricity when the photovoltaic system cannot.
There are no batteries involved.

A photovoltaic system for a house not only provides electricity for the
house, it also feeds electricity into the grid (for which the owner gets
a rebate on the bill) with the grid supplying power when the
photovoltaic system cannot.  There are no batteries involved.

As either of the preceding two cases, but with batteries also involved.

Electric vehicles may be used as storage capacity for the grid.  When
they're on charge (usually at night) they may supply power to the
grid to cope with brief increases in demand (people putting the
kettle on during TV adverts).  I don't know if any current systems
do so, but it would be possible for the car to provide household
electricity for a while during a power outage.

I've probably missed something.  Your tagging either needs to
cover less cases or more.

--
Paul

_______________________________________________
Tagging mailing list
Tagging@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Reply via email to