On 12/09/19 21:06, Sebastian S. wrote:
Good discussion,
I also think the track should be mapped.
Aside from access no I think it might be worthwhile adding decommissioned or rehabilitation tags to tracks that should not be used to indicate their intended end.

Other thoughts are:
- why show access=no tracks on the map? Admittedly this comes down to the data consumers and their rendering.

Same reason why private roads get shown - they can be use navigationally, for example, I am half way along the road because I have just passed that track that has no access.
- would tagging the whole area with access=conditional add any value?
No. Not unless that area does truly have that. And then renders will have to recognise any thing inside it as having that access tag too.
- how will this discussion that will end in some form of agreed practice be documented on the map, aside from revised tracks that is? - have they also threatened other mapping companies with legal actions? ianal but my response would be highlighting the various mismatches as already pointed out in the thread.
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On 12 September 2019 6:27:23 pm AEST, Ewen Hill <[email protected]> wrote:

        Frederick,

       If I use the term bush walking colloquially, then it means to
    use a track that already exists., either single track or 4wd track
    (fire trail) predominantly


Some call that 'track walking'.

    however there might be times where you cross a grass land where
    there is no well defined track.


And some would see that as true 'bushwalking'.


    If you are talking about walking through a forest not on a track
    or the track is hideously overgrown than I would call that "bush
    bashing".


The term 'scruby' is used by some for areas where vegetation causes scratched skin, ripped clothing. Most tend to avoid these areas when ever possible after a few encounters, even if the distance is more than doubled.

    The term hiking has connotations mainly of trails with the odd bit
    of bush bashing included.

    Large wombats and kangaroos who can create tracks in sparse
    undergrowth that is hard to tell from a man-made walking trail on
    the ground. Another issue is old bulldozer tracks or firefighter
    tracks that were used to stop wild fires (sometimes called mineral
    earth breaks). Normally these are removed post the wildfire but
    sometimes only at the start of the new track.

    In the brochure, that sounds like I should stay on the trails.if
    walking

    Ewen


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