Interesting discussion; it does seem like the consensus is landing on the side of service=pipestem.

There are 668 instances of driveway=pipestem in Australia: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gU6, but there is 0 instances of service=pipestem: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gUd. However, it seems as though I have had a disproportionate influence (509 of driveway=pipestem were last edited by me https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gUf)

I don't have a strong preference either way, so I'm happy to move over to the service=pipestem structure (possibly through bulk edit?)

Dian

On 2022-03-16 08:53, Andrew Harvey wrote:

In the global community it's still disputed, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:service%3Ddriveway#Pipestems and my proposal to have this as an editor preset https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/pull/239 where the tagging question is still not resolved.

I've actually come around to the idea that service=pipstem is better, rational being that service=driveway is very clearly defined on the wiki as a non-shared driveway leading to a single residence. I think it's best we leave that intact and have a sibling tag service=pipestem for shared driveways. Otherwise you'll need to redefine service=driveway to be any type of shared or non-shared driveway and add a new tag driveway=single to most existing highway=service.

On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 at 08:10, Tom Brennan <[email protected]> wrote:

I think I started the last discussion on this, so I'll wade in!
Driveways are a bit of a nightmare - there are lots that don't fit
neatly into one bucket or another.

We did agree that service=driveway, driveway=pipestem was better than
service=pipestem.

It's probably 6 of one, half a dozen of the other as to whether the ones
below are all shared driveways. Some could equally be classified as
private residential roads.

But they could all do with a clean up, one way or the other!

cheers
Tom
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On 15/03/2022 9:22 pm, Dian Ågesson wrote:


Hi Seb!

The last time this came up on the mailing list
(https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2021-September/015014.html)
most people seemed to approve of the following mapping:

highway=service

service=driveway

driveway=pipestem

Dian

On 2022-03-15 20:16, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au wrote:

Hi all,

Had a query regarding the mapping of driveways / shared driveways as there seems to be quite a number of different approaches in the data. Below are three examples of similar ways that have different tags used
in each instance.

Highway=service
Service= driveway
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/818426144

Highway=Residential
Service= driveway
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/184844142#map=18/-38.00126/145.27585

Highway=residential
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429541974

Reading the OSM wiki, none of these ways are correctly mapped as they are all shared driveways that leads from a road. my understanding that
they need to be tagged as follows:

Highway=service
Service= Pipestem

Would be interested in knowing your thoughts.

regards,

Sebastian
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