On Tue, 23 Aug 2022 at 20:02, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 23/8/22 18:15, Josh Marshall wrote: > > tl;dr - I’m interested in getting more surfing-centric tagging into OSM, > hopefully leading to an open surfing map. And want to check on what would > be appropriate. In an analogous way to how cycling is treated, along with > trail running, my own sports of choice. > > Hi, welcome. > Thanks! But I've been lurking and sporadically posting here for a long time now. I see what goes on! But mainly stick to editing my local area and anywhere I visit.
Mostly land based things. Can you give a few examples? > > I found this one, > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1009395310 > > looks to be both surfing sand swimming... > Yes, that's exactly the sort of thing. And better yet, why aren't our beaches, like the typical patrolled locations marked in such a way as that swimming_area too? Scope creep, anyone? This gets me more engaged, because I go to the beach plenty even if I don't surf myself. Starting to smell like an Aussie wiki page on how to tag beaches and surf spots. This is my local... I spend plenty of time here, even sometimes just parked in my van and remote working. Perhaps I should do some mapping/tapping based on what we discuss there, then bring it back for further chat? https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-32.92433/151.79302 Are there any concerns on me taking the idea and running with it? It would > be good at least to flesh out the wiki page on what tags can or should be > applied. I already have a spreadsheet from the grommie on the various > attributes of a surf break (left and right waves, tide/swell/wind > required). Does this require a formal proposal? > > There are those that say yes to a formal proposal, others nay. > > You may have noticed my Hills Hoist thing.. I raised it here to see what > reaction I got and to seek ideas. I have now raised it on the tagging group > for more of an international view and will raise it on the russian wiki > page on the 'umbrella' tag. > > I would think you may get some feed back here to start with.. then raise > it on the talk page > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:sport%3Dsurfing > Yep, your post on the Hills Hoist probably helped prompt me into this idea... and I've added my own thoughts there. Hills Hoist mapathon, anyone? I might try mapping just a handful of the local breaks to tease out some of the nuance, then write up and post on the wiki talk page. As the break would be a water feature I'd use a water tag > waterway=surf_break ??? That could be a way where the break first occurs .. > possibly sub tags such as break=left/right/* This would be the physical > feature for use with sport=surfing... > > Just my idea.. you may have more/different? > That's exactly the sort of thing I was after. It is *visible* after all, just a bit hard to explain, so a waterway=surf_break makes sense. My own pause relates to how even though surf breaks are physical locations > (would be mapped as either areas or points), they are tied to underwater > features and topography such as reefs, not necessarily visible from the > surface. And so will rely heavily on local knowledge. But if not rendered > by default, there’s no problem with that, right? > > The surf break may be visible on some of the satellite imagery. Mapbox off > Tamarama Beach, Sydney looks large. > Yep, noted as well. I checked the ones near me... some visible on aerial, some not. Guessing it depends on conditions!
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