Hi Frederik, At first I was a little annoyed at what I thought to be obvious things to consider in your message, as what I am trying to do with this discussion is exactly to cover those issues... but I always run a little search first, and that very much changed my tune to saying I am quite honoured to have you reply to my little proposal. :)
I am also a non-surfer, but my son is approaching elite level (it's not from my side of the family), and so this is somewhat a collaborative effort, and he has become quite engaged by the thought of an open repository of information on surfing. He has already prepared a spreadsheet with all the attributes required to describe a break, which are practically identical already to those suggested by Phil Wyatt in the response following yours. The primary "conditions" are swell direction and size, wind direction and tide. I have yet to fully think them through, but my instinction is to do it in a fashion similar to `:conditional` ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions), perhaps: sport=surfing surfing:conditional=swell-direction@NE-E;swell-size@3m+;wind@S-WSW (and so on) Now in another sense this is getting a bit ahead of the game... I am thinking as a part of this there would need to be a dedicated map server+site for highlighting the surfing options (hopefully I will have the time for this)... and until there is I think it's okay to experiment with the tagging. Because in general a surfer would also be able to determine the conditions by looking at the map and a current weather forecast. So I am collating all these thoughts, and will put them together into the discussion on the sport=surfing tag to take it forward, while doing a little experimentation in my local area. Regards, Josh On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 20:48, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: > Hi, > > non-Australian and non-surfer here but please remember that stuff you > map in OSM must be reasonably verifiable. > > If you map a great surf spot which only exists when some external > conditions align, then it might be hard for others to verify (they'd > have to wait for the conditions to align). > > As a non-surfer I would assume that "the wind and waves are just right" > is something that could make a perfect surf spot nearly everywhere, and > surfers would not be helped by a map showing lots of spots that might be > great if "the wind and waves are just right" ;) > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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