Ruben heeft gelijk. Politiek is politiek. Dat is niet de bekommernis van
onze gemeenschappelijke zaak ("cause commune").
Et à vous André: il ne faut pas mettre en question, voire même valider,
l'opinion générale avant de l'avoir sollicitée.
Karel
On 14-11-15 17:07, André Pirard wrote:
On 2015-11-14 17:24, Ruben Maes wrote :
Hi
I'm sorry, but just no. Though I am personally shocked just like everyone else,
I feel that OSM is IMO not the place for these kind of messages. I would rather
have your changeset reverted.
My mind was not agreeing with my heart when clicking "send" because I
feared this reply.
Furthermore, you have no right to speak on behalf of *all* OSM mappers.
That is exactly why I posted this message, to know the general opinion
about it.
At this time, it's 1 no 2 yes.
I'm waiting for more reactions and if there is not a strong majority
of yeses, I will revert.
So, please say yes if you feel like it, not just no.
By all means, do not tell anybody else that the OSM community until a
decision is made by Monday.
And please everybody, say something else that just noes and tell us
what you think about the Wikipedia link. That is, a link that is not
the website of the element but to information related to it.
There may even be terrorists here for all we know.
If this were to appear in the press like you suggest, I would feel ashamed and
have the feeling that we are using the events for our own cause, which too many
people are already doing.
I don't feel like that at all. There is no boasting.
Would you suppress humanitarian tagging about which there is much
boasting?
Cheers
André.
Regards
Ruben
Saturday 14 November 2015 17:14:57, André Pirard:
Hi,
OpenstreetMap often extends friendliness by humanitarian tagging.
In this case of desolation, there is little to tag. Little...
Wikipedia have been extremely fast
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks> in all
languages !!!
After some mourning period, the note below may be replaced by this (but
how?):
Attentats du 13 novembre 2015 en Île-de-France
<https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentats_du_13_novembre_2015_en_%C3%8Ele-de-France>
I have just uploaded this change set (scroll down the left pane):
Our deepest condolences about the horrible terrorist attacks that
happened here on 2015-11-13.
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35307155>
It adds the following note<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:note>
to the OSM elements at the 6 attacked locations.
(they were perfectly mapped, bravo)
Nos plus sincères condoléances à propos des monstrueuses attaques
terroristes qui ont eu lieu ici le 2015-11-13. Vous avez l'amitié de
tous les contributeurs à OpenStreetMap de par le monde.
In their language. Sorry no room for added English in <256 characters.
Translates to:
Our deepest condolences about the horrible terrorist attacks that
happened here on 2015-11-13.
Receive the friendship of all the Openstreetmap contributors around the
world.
Please forward this to other concerned OSM mailing lists.
Please let me know any change you come to an agreement with.
I will make any change easily using my *.osm file.
By Monday, you may like to send the URL to the Press.
It won't be bad advertising for OpenStreetMap to show the places and to
join the world's cry .
But let us hope that vandalism will not be added to terrorism.
Cheers
André.
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